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Location: Spring, summer South Dakota otherwise Texas
Posts: 205
Originally Posted by Fun71
Both my wife and I have lots of family there. My family bugged out for Natchitoches but the wife's family is gonna ride the storm out.
my brother in law owns an RV Park in Jasper County, Tx when Rita came thru a state trooper stopped by and told him, if things go bad do what you gotta do to protect your property.
My wife's brother is a LEO and you wouldn't believe the things that went on during Katrina that never made the news. Same as that, folks were advised to "do what was necessary" to survive.
Been raining all day, but supposed to be nice the rest of the week. I wouldn't mind that. Of course, being stuck in the bunker all day it doesn't really matter what it's doing outside.
Work was okay today. The lead was there and said I had to work in inspection because the other guy had too much work to do. Hm, where does that put me? I said, so much for giving me a break. He just shrugged. I like the inspector who's there this week. We commiserated on how unacceptable that memo was that we saw yesterday.
Jamesbo that's the best picture I believe I'll see all week.
I'm relieved the hurricane will hit land so far west, but I feel bad for the people who will be affected. Looks like it will go right past John. Pretty sure the next time one goes near the Florida panhandle, I'll have no luck whatsoever talking my family out of bailing. The last time one was supposed to hit them directly, it veered off and they barely even got rain. Their argument for the next time will be it will do the same again.
Well I'm beat. We had some of the bigger wheels today, and I pulled something in my side and it hurts like a mother. Think I'll fix some meatloaf and then hit the sack. Hope everyone has a good evening.
soaking in Alkali
Never heard of it.
Was told by rebuilder.
An alkali is a basic solution with pH > 7.0 often in the range of 10.0 - 13.0. It readily removes grease, carbon deposits, and virtually anything of carbon compounds (e.g. petroleum products/derivatives) - i.e. bleach (sodium hypochlorite)is an alkali solution as is oven cleaner & lye (sodium hydroxide) or caustic soda. Works best for cleaning automotive parts caked with carbon deposits.
As of the most recent NOAA NHC update (4PM EDT) Laura is expected to remain a Cat 3 (major) hurricane w/ on-shore arrival ~1AM. Now, I need to find the tidal tables for that area to see what the storm surge will produce.
Low tide for Lake Pontchartrain is ~3:00AM. So, that's a plus; none-the-less, Laura is supposed to produce a storm surge of 7 - 11 feet from Intracoastal City to Morgan City including Vermilion Bay. Water is going to stack up on the Northeast quadrant of the hurricane as it makes landfall. Considering there isn't much elevation to begin with at this area of the Gulf coastline, that's a modestly significant storm surge. If it remains a Cat 3 at landfall, that's some serious flooding.
No doubt about the lack of elevation on the marshes and coastal prairie. When my Mom was searching for a new house she was torn between two that she really liked. One was at 8' above sea level and the other was at 11' above sea level, and this is 25 miles inland from the Gulf.
The projections show it will likely make landfall at Sabine Pass, so Lake Charles will be right in the main path.
Last edited by Fun71; August 25th, 2020 at 02:56 PM.
Both my wife and I have lots of family there. My family bugged out for Natchitoches but the wife's family is gonna ride the storm out.
My wife's Mom and sister's family headed to Dallas. Her brother is LEO so he will stay, hunker down through the storm, then get to work after the worst has passed.
Sheriff Mancuso said jails will be evacuated but law enforcement will have “zero tolerance,” meaning they are not gonna be tolerant of anybody doing any illegal activity. “We have plenty of room [in jail],” Mancuso said.
As people prepare to evacuate and make plans ahead of Laura, Mancuso said officials are prepared.
“Unlike pandemic where we’re learning [how to deal], we know how to do this [deal with hurricanes],” Mancuso said. “We know how to protect your property.”
When reviewing tropical storm data one of the key data points to evaluate is barometric pressure. Of note w/ Laura has been a rather significant drop in barometric pressure over the past 12 hours. This data is generally of no interest to the general public and it generally goes unmentioned or if it is mentioned it is merely that - just mentioned. Normal barometric pressure @ MSL @ 59°F across our planet is ~29.92" Hg. A 1" drop in barometric pressure is roughly equivalent to the pressure 1,000' above MSL. If you combine the diameter of the hurricane with the barometric pressure, it provides a rough idea of the significance of storm surge contained within the region (generally the RH quadrant) of a hurricane. Wind plays a factor, but wind plays a much more important factor when it's force is producing storm surge. This is because it takes more energy to move water @ 29.92" Hg than it does to move water at a lesser barometric pressure. IOW, water with less pressure exerted upon it will stack up higher and move further than water with greater pressure exerted upon it. Within the past 12 hours Laura's barometric pressure has fallen from 29.73" Hg to the current 29.03" Hg - that is significant. This is the lowest pressure recording obtained inside the hurricane. In effect, if the barometric pressure continues to fall over the next 12 - 24 hours, the storm surge could rise significantly. Right now the greatest storm surge is expected to be ~ 9 - 13 ft. If the barometric pressure drops below 29.00" Hg, it will likely produce a much higher storm surge.
VC - You provided a better explanation of what influences the amount of storm surge than I've ever heard from a local or national weatherman. Let's hope the pressure doesn't bottom out for those who have loved ones in the path.
Pretty boring day for me. Never did get the yard mowed. By the time I got around to thinking of starting it was too hot, and stayed that way even when it got into the early evening. Our garbage disposal started going out today. It amazingly lasted 14-years, which is unheard of these days. I wanted to get another one exactly like it so I don't have to reroute any plumbing or electric. No one had one locally in stock, but I was able to order one that will be here by Thursday. Guess that will be a Friday or Saturday project.
Hope everyone has a great evening!
I had no idea you liked videos so much. My old college room mate specializes in international hilarious [and some time raunchy] videos. If you'd like I can put you on a list to forward. He's tri lingual and travels all over the world buying a selling antiques for his auction house. I would imagine his contact list is enormous [ I have no idea where all this stuff comes from]. Some are hilarious, others leave NOTHING to the imagination.
As of 4:00 am CDT Laura’s central pressure has dropped to 28.73” Hg & the storm surge has been raised to 10-15 ft. Water will move more easily further up tributaries, marshes, inlets, tributaries, rivers & waterways.
Hope you guys make it thru the Hurricanes, again. Boy I sure thought that I wanted to be down south where the weather is warmer and more pleasant than up here in Michigan, but I guess I'm happy to be here. Seems every year about this time it's Hurricanes in the east, and huge fires in the west, (also worries of earthquakes). This morning we are having a calm thunderstorm . It's not blowing hard, just calm lightning flashes and rolling thunder. Actually really peaceful and relaxing. I woke up at 5:30 and closed some windows when it started, went back to bed and slept like a baby. Got up about 8 which is late for me. Now it's 10 and still raining and gently stormy. Life is good....
Hope you guys make it thru the Hurricanes, again. Boy I sure thought that I wanted to be down south where the weather is warmer and more pleasant than up here in Michigan, but I guess I'm happy to be here. Seems every year about this time it's Hurricanes in the east, and huge fires in the west, (also worries of earthquakes). This morning we are having a calm thunderstorm . It's not blowing hard, just calm lightning flashes and rolling thunder. Actually really peaceful and relaxing. I woke up at 5:30 and closed some windows when it started, went back to bed and slept like a baby. Got up about 8 which is late for me. Now it's 10 and still raining and gently stormy. Life is good....
Morning all, Finally some relief coming here starting Saturday in AZ under 100 temps for the next 7 days
Slow today at work so they sent some of us home. I rode my 80s vintage BMX bike a couple of miles now I'm going to change the front tire on my Kawasaki. Have a great day guys.
“No one wants to quit when he's losing and no one wants to quit when he's winning.”
-- Richard Petty
The hurricane also threatens a center of the U.S. energy industry. The government said 84% of Gulf oil production and an estimated 61% of natural gas production were shut down, including Valero and Total refineries in Port Arthur, and Citgo's plant in Lake Charles. Nearly 300 platforms have been evacuated. Consumers are unlikely to see big price hikes however, because the pandemic has decimated demand for fuel.
"If Laura moves further west toward Houston, there will be a much bigger gasoline supply problem," Oil analyst Andrew Lipow said, since refineries usually take two to three weeks to resume full operations.
Last edited by Fun71; August 26th, 2020 at 08:23 AM.
As of 1:00 PM CDT Laura’s central pressure has dropped to 28.11” Hg & the storm surge has been raised to 15 - 20 ft. Johnson Bayou & Port Arthur, TX could be significantly under water for a significantly long time. Port Arthur is 7' above MSL. They're probably going to take the greatest hit as the storm surge migrates through & up Sabine Pass. Hard to imagine the pressure will drop further, but if it were to fall below 28.00" Hg, it would approach a Cat 5 w/ storm surge 19 - 24 ft. Significantly extreme storm surge which could migrate 45 - 50 miles inland.
Location: Spring, summer South Dakota otherwise Texas
Posts: 205
Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
Hope you guys make it thru the Hurricanes, again. Boy I sure thought that I wanted to be down south where the weather is warmer and more pleasant than up here in Michigan, but I guess I'm happy to be here. Seems every year about this time it's Hurricanes in the east, and huge fires in the west, (also worries of earthquakes). This morning we are having a calm thunderstorm . It's not blowing hard, just calm lightning flashes and rolling thunder. Actually really peaceful and relaxing. I woke up at 5:30 and closed some windows when it started, went back to bed and slept like a baby. Got up about 8 which is late for me. Now it's 10 and still raining and gently stormy. Life is good....
simple answer South in winter and North in summer best of both worlds.
Norm,, I played with a + 2 the other day, I didn't know the guy but when I was warming up on the practice range, I could her him hit the big ball and I said to my self "Self that guy can play," they all make the same sound
Nice pic of the big blue marble and the hurricane. It really takes up the entire Gulf of Mexico, which is pretty big. I'll keep my snowstorms in the winter, thank you.
As of 4:00 PM CDT Laura’s central pressure has dropped to 27.97” Hg & the storm surge remains 15 - 20 ft. That (meaning lack of) barometric pressure is enormous. Sustained winds have achieved 145 mph making it a significant Cat 4. If it sustains 27.97" Hg when it makes the shoreline tonight, this is going to be catastrophic.
Rain seems to have left us, though clouds persist. I heard a little thunder while I was trying not to sleep sitting on the couch this afternoon. I ran an errand this afternoon and took the Mercedes. I left the top up, just in case some errant rain came by. That isn't the quickest top to put up. Took it out on the expressway for the first time. It just glides at 80. Might take it to work Friday.
Went to lunch with a couple guys today. As we were headed back to work we were driving past a bar, and there was a lawn service mowing. We were in Dan's car, a one year old Honda Accord. Big wheels, sunroof, fancy radio business, nice car that he obsesses over. Mower kicks up a rock and hits the driver's door. I thought, here we go. He gets out right there, doesn't even move for the traffic behind us, starts yammering at the guy on the mower. This guy feigns not speaking English, and to Dan's credit he keeps his cool. Gets the boss's number off him. Drops us off at work and calls the lead and says he has to go to the police department. Damage is huge. Had to have been a boulder skipped across the door, made a huge ding and three big chips. He got it all worked out but he was noticeably rattled the rest of the afternoon. Bad news.
Jamesbo I can wait to see videos posted on facebook and other places. Thanks though. That bagel looks awesome. Got in touch with John and he said he's confident he'll stay dry over the next few days. He's 45 miles from the airport. I hope he's right.
CW I had a Harley once and in the four years I owned it I never changed the tires. Of course it only had 5K miles when I sold it. I probably went through 8 sets of tires on my bicycle between getting it in 1978 and getting my drivers license in 1983. Haven't ridden it since then.
Gonna relax a little and hit the sack early. Hope everyone had a good Hump Day.
Well this does not look good for our families in Lake Charles.
My lil sister texted and said Cameron Parish (between LC and the coast) is being called a "kill zone" by first responders as the storm surge will be so high that no one will be able to survive there. It's a coastal marsh that's flat as can be and almost at sea level.
Last edited by Fun71; August 26th, 2020 at 05:51 PM.
Mike, I don't know why your buddy needed to call the Police, it wasn't deliberate. He should have been able to call his insurance company to let them take care of it. Norm, I saw that same terminology on the evening news, not survivable.
The entire area between White Lake & Sabine Lake North to Interstate 10 will have between 10 - 20 feet of water - there will be absolutely nowhere to hide. If those folks aren't out of there, they will most likely not survive.
August 25th, 2020, 10:41 AM
