1970 W-30 4 spd coming back to life

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Old April 2nd, 2021, 08:38 AM
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I don't know if people on the board know that Paul had a really mint 70 442 Pace Car when I first met him.

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The W25 hood that I bought from him stands proudly on my 442 to this day.
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Old April 3rd, 2021, 04:46 PM
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Got a chance to work on trunk lid today. A few hours is better than nothing. When I got the trunk lid about a month ago it was a friday after work and I delivered to blaster saturday morning. That friday night before I had to cut out any rust so there was some sandwich rust in the latch area that I cut out areas. I had the original lid with a decent latch area and planned on grafting the pieces needed after I got it back. I got a chance to do that today. I also was able to weld up emblem holes that were there along with "442" holes that were done from previous owner. I have the original lid with the factory pattern so I duplicated it onto the new lid and drilled out holes. My next step is to epoxy prime the insides before I put it back together. Im gonna try and do that tomorrow morning.



















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Old April 7th, 2021, 03:19 PM
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Work on the trunk lid continues: I epoxy primed the underside of the skin and frame. I then went around the edges on the inside if skin and frame where the two would meet when crimped and hand brushed a coat of SEM rust trap paint just for added protection. Once this was all dry I put the two back together and lined up the spot weld marks from when I separated. I used a door skin hammer and dolly and a door skin zipper that attaches to an air hammer. I hammered and crimped the skin back onto the trunk lid frame and all looks pretty good. Trunk lid is now rust free and an original early 70 vintage. I now will just re-weld the original spot welds, do some grinding and prep the outside and underside of trunk lid for a coat of epoxy primer. After this is done, I will prime and then fit and do any surface prep needed. At this point my metal work should be DONE! Then comes more block sanding in prep for paint.














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Old April 11th, 2021, 04:29 PM
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Maybe kind of repetitive and not that interesting but this trunk lid has been a lot of work. I think I have it ready for a coat of polyester followed by block sanding. I feel a lot better now that I took the time to separate the pieces and eliminate all the rust. It is now rust free and like new. Ill try the fit out in a day or two but Im optimistic.



















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Another masterpiece! Scrappie se convirtió en un auténtico maestro.

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Old April 14th, 2021, 05:48 PM
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I primed the sport mirror bases a couple weeks ago. The glass mirrors themselves were not cracked but had significant scratches. I got the glass polishing kit from Eastwood to see if that would remedy the situation. I came home from work yesterday and had an hour to spare so I gave it a shot. It didn't work on the mirror and I think it took some of the silver off. I thought it was on back side? Anyways I ordered the replacement glass from TPP. I know there has been discussion here about the fit or lack thereof but if they are big enough and need to be sanded down to fit then I will try that. If that doesn't work Ill just have a couple new pcs cut and sanded by glass shop.
I removed the originals and will keep them for reference if needed. I cleaned up the glass mounts for when I get the glass but I found it interesting how these are put together and how they come apart. Should be fun putting them back together.
If anybody has a recommendation for replacing the black backing material behind the mirror Im all ears.












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Old April 15th, 2021, 06:52 AM
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I got my glass from OPGI and it was not even close to fitting. Was about 1/4” to wide. A local glass company ground it down to fit. Interesting my mirror did not have the black backer. I am not even sure if the glass would have fit in the frame with the backer. Would have been to thick for the frame edge to fold back over the glass.
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Yeah its a pretty thin material maybe to keep from friction or to darken the backside? IDK actual purpose. I’m gonna try and put something back in there but thinking it has to be able to withstand moisture? Ill let you guys know what the replacement glass is like once I get.
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Update on the port mirror glass

I received my mirror replacement pieces from TPP today. I am pleased to say they are an exact match. One side of the glass even has the magnified view so its up to me which side I will use. First picture is side by side, the second is with the new over the old.

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Power steering box and pump rebuild

I sent my power steering box and pump off to Marty at power steering.com for the extreme restoration. These are pictures of the disassembled pieces as of now. Ill show more pics as I get them or after I get it back.

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Old April 19th, 2021, 08:01 PM
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I received my mirror replacement pieces from TPP today. I am pleased to say they are an exact match. One side of the glass even has the magnified view so its up to me which side I will use. First picture is side by side, the second is with the new over the old.
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Which side of the glass matches the driver's side mirror, magnified or non-magnified?
Your car is amazing, what a project!
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Hey thx Brad, I marked the mirrors driver and pass when disassembling thinking there was a difference but in actuality they are both the same and both have the option of magnified or not. There is no difference in shape if you flip them over.
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Originally Posted by scrappie
I received my mirror replacement pieces from TPP today. I am pleased to say they are an exact match. One side of the glass even has the magnified view so its up to me which side I will use. First picture is side by side, the second is with the new over the old.
glad your mirror glass worked out. The ones I got from OPGI were not reversible and we’re not magnified on one side so must be a totally different manufacturer. Come to think of it I bet the ones OPGI sent were not correct for a 1970 sport mirror. Now that they are ground down and fitted in they look factory though.
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https://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/par...acement+mirror

This is the page of what they offer. A few different options but the third one has the description of being 70 only mirrors and those are the ones I ordered.
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Hey thx Brad, I marked the mirrors driver and pass when disassembling thinking there was a difference but in actuality they are both the same and both have the option of magnified or not. There is no difference in shape if you flip them over.
Thanks Paul. I was wondering which face of the glass most closely resembles the factory original glass - the magnified side or the un-magnified side. My sport mirrors don't have the original glass, so I can't compare. I want them to look as close to stock as possible when i order and install TPP mirror glass.
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Simply amazing work on that trunk lid! Well, The entire car also.
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Thx Eric. Brad Im pretty sure the original mirrors did not have the magnification but I will check next time Im out in the garage.
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The original mirrors do not have any magnification. Here is a picture of originals next to the replacements

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Originally Posted by scrappie
The original mirrors do not have any magnification. Here is a picture of originals next to the replacements
Thanks for the helpful info Paul! Great pics too.
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More pics of the power steering gear box and pump. Rag joint looks a little pitted after blasting. I have another I'll have to compare and see what looks better. Everything else seems to look ok.




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Steering box back

Ive been busy with yard work these past few weeks, I guess its that time of year so not much work on the car lately.
I did receive my my steering box back today from Marty at powersteering.com. Im pretty happy with the outcome. I would have liked to rebuild it myself but some things are just better left for the experts or people who do them all the time. I would constantly be looking for leaks if I did it. I tried replacing the pitman arm seal once in a car years ago and it kept leaking so not on this one. The pump should be right behind this in delivery for tomorrow.






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Old May 3rd, 2021, 09:27 PM
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Pretty slick how you cut out the piece from the old lid and sprayed the numeral locations. After you drilled out the spot welds, was it easy to pop out the inner structure with the folds from the outer?
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Thanks, I wouldn't say it was easy by any means. I made a tool out of a pair of channel locks that helps peel back the folded edge. It takes a lot of time and patience but once the welds are free and the metal is out of the way, the inner structure comes right out. Ill try to get a pic of the pliers I made up.
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PS pump back from rebuild

Like I expected, the PS pump arrived today from Marty at Powersteering.com. I have the original cap and another pulley back in my garage. I think this looks pretty good? I think if anyone is looking for a rebuild of these components or a good recommendation, Marty at powersteering.com does a great job and quick turn around time.



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Marty did nice work on your PS box and pump. Did you opt for the fast ratio?
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I didn't change anything as far as ratio goes. I know he offers that option though. I dont think Ill drive it enough to notice but we'll see? Im thinking this is same box and pump as yours correct?

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X2 on PowerSteering.com and Marty. My car doesn't have power steering but they will still refurb a standard steering box
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Originally Posted by WTHIRTY1
Marty did nice work on your PS box and pump. Did you opt for the fast ratio?
Jimmy I did do the fast ratio for my box that they rebuilt. I’ll let you know how it drives when I get to that point!
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Some before and after eye candy

Had the original 7040256 carb and 1111977 distributor restored and rebuilt by Ken at Everyday performance. It will be a while before I know but I hope they perform as good as they look.










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Thanks, I wouldn't say it was easy by any means. I made a tool out of a pair of channel locks that helps peel back the folded edge. It takes a lot of time and patience but once the welds are free and the metal is out of the way, the inner structure comes right out. Ill try to get a pic of the pliers I made up.
Ya, I'd like to see what you came up with for pliers. Also interested on how you welded that outer shell back onto the inner structure and kept those lines straight on the underside. Truly nice job.
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Paul, your vacuum advance should be the 427 / 16. Let me know if you need one.
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Thx Mike, Can you or anyone tell me what those numbers refer to exactly? My original being - 430/18
Yours - 427/16
Do those numbers refer to degrees or inches of vacuum ?

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Thx Mike, Can you or anyone tell me what those numbers refer to exactly? My original being - 430/18
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Do those numbers refer to degrees or inches of vacuum ?
Paul, the 430 is the last 3 digits of the GM part number. The 18 refers to the degrees of advance the unit provides.
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Thx Jimmy, that’s what I was looking for.
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Love getting parts back from rebuilding. Great motivational factor. They look great.

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Had the original 7040256 carb and 1111977 distributor restored and rebuilt by Ken at Everyday performance. It will be a while before I know but I hope they perform as good as they look.









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The carbs I have had done by Everyday Performance have been great.....they run like EFI.

And, Ken picks up the phone on nights and weekends for tech support.

Highly recommended.
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Well I'm finally getting the motor to where it needs to be. Dr. Remmel will hopefully receive this patient next week? He's a pretty busy guy so looking at late summer early fall. Ill post pics as that progresses.


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wiper motor restoration

Been picking away at stuff and one of the items was the wiper motor. Like many here have done, I sent it to Steve Hackel. It really is amazing the job he does on these. The thing looks brand new.



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