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Well, I can tell you that it's a Pontiac and not a Plymouth! A factory lightweight Super Duty drag car if I recall correctly, or at least according to the info at the car. Edit: I see ya caught your gaffe.
Well, I can tell you that it's a Pontiac and not a Plymouth! A factory lightweight Super Duty drag car if I recall correctly, or at least according to the info at the car. Edit: I see ya caught your gaffe.
Ya , I did finally catch it. That front end really looked like a first Gen Cuda. Those SD 421's were supposed to be one helluva motor. I'd bet that cad is worth a pretty penny!
This is an interesting car. I think it's a 1965 or 1966 Mercury Park Lane Galaxie or sumpin like dat. What's interesting (to me) is it's a 2-door. I seem to recall most I saw were 4-door and several (or many) law enforcement agencies used them as patrol cars, or am I mistaken?
That Merc Park Lane has me recalling my first introductions with dealerships in my formative years of automobiles trying to identify differences between a Mercury and a Ford. Seems for a period of time (at least in the 1960s), for every Mercury model produced Ford produced a near replica of a Mercury model. It was sorta bizarre I thought.
I could (probably should so I'm not talking out my a$$) look this up, but dealerships back in the 1960s and most of the 1970s were mostly identified as Ford Lincoln-Mercury dealership. There were very, very few and far between dealers who sold exclusively Ford or exclusively Lincoln-Mercury.
Well, I read through several articles on Ford Lincoln-Mercury, the history of Lincoln-Mercury and the various engineering styling concepts, history of models (which model was the precursor to another model) & frankly my brain has turned to marshmallows. I think I'd prefer a frontal lobotomy.
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They had their own area. It was an open event, and the Merc was in the general show field. Chris, the pic that you provided has more body trim on it, plus a rear quarter badging, which the black car does not. I would guess that it is the entry model for a Merc that year. Maybe he will show up for the Red Barns Spectacular in August, and I can get more info. I believe that I have seen it there before.
They had their own area. It was an open event, and the Merc was in the general show field. Chris, the pic that you provided has more body trim on it, plus a rear quarter badging, which the black car does not. I would guess that it is the entry model for a Merc that year. Maybe he will show up for the Red Barns Spectacular in August, and I can get more info. I believe that I have seen it there before.
Obviously I thought the whole show was an MCACN event. That would be great if you can find any additional info on the car if you get the opportunity, thanks.
Seems for a period of time (at least in the 1960s), for every Mercury model produced Ford produced a near replica of a Mercury model.
That carried into the 90s and beyond. Ford was the base version and Mercury was the fancier version of essentially the same vehicle.
Ford Crown Victoria - Mercury Grand Marquis
Ford Torino - Mercury Montego
Ford Thunderbird - Mercury Cougar
Ford Mustang - Mercury Capri
Ford Taurus - Mercury Sable Ford Explorer - Mercury Mountaineer
That carried into the 90s and beyond. Ford was the base version and Mercury was the fancier version of essentially the same vehicle.
Ford Crown Victoria - Mercury Grand Marquis
Ford Torino - Mercury Montego
Ford Thunderbird - Mercury Cougar
Ford Mustang - Mercury Capri
Ford Taurus - Mercury Sable Ford Explorer - Mercury Mountaineer
Right-on. Yeah, that's how it went.
There was a Comet, Falcon, Fairlane, Maverick & Galaxie model I recall.
Speaking of motor vehicles. I strongly encourage everyone to use vehicle shock absorbers.
New shocks installed. So sweet to see ea. new shock extend to the full length position as I cut the temporary band which holds each shock in the compressed position. I'll bet I was riding around with no shocks on the rear of the truck for ~5-6 months.
They had their own area. It was an open event, and the Merc was in the general show field. Chris, the pic that you provided has more body trim on it, plus a rear quarter badging, which the black car does not. I would guess that it is the entry model for a Merc that year. Maybe he will show up for the Red Barns Spectacular in August, and I can get more info. I believe that I have seen it there before.
Additionally, the black car is a sedan while the green car is a coupe.
Additionally, the black car is a sedan while the green car is a coupe.
What is your definition of a sedan, the black car is a two door, not a 4-door. It may be a post car, but does that make it a sedan. The car I posted I also see as black, but it is definitely not a coupe, it's a convertible.
Edit - Sorry, I'm getting F'ing senile. The car I posted is NOT a vert. I gotta get off of here!
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What is your definition of a sedan, the black car is a two door, not a 4-door. It may be a post car, but does that make it a sedan. The car I posted I also see as black, but it is definitely not a coupe, it's a convertible.
Edit - Sorry, I'm getting F'ing senile. The car I posted is NOT a vert. I gotta get off of here!
You need to either drink more or stop drinking altogether - a Pontiac LeMans is a Plymouth Barracuda?
Marketing hype it just that - hyped. From a body & fender (shop/person) perspective. A sedan has posts, a coupe does not have posts. The black car is a two door sedan - it is not a two door coupe.
Marketing hype it just that - hyped. From a body & fender (shop/person) perspective. A sedan has posts, a coupe does not have posts. The black car is a two door sedan - it is not a two door coupe.
If that's a universal understanding, it's odd Oldsmobile called a 2-door Post car a Sports Coupe?
What any manufacturer calls a coupe is absolutely nothing more than marketing hype. Trace the history of the automotive term "coupe" and you'll be surprised where it began and how it began. Basically weld a roof to an open carriage.
Coupe (marketing) became a manufacturing "ploy" for a "sportier" look - to appeal to sportier/hip owners. Ha! Traditionally, a coupe was meant to be engineered w/ less cubic feet of interior space than a sedan (see Mercedes Benz & others).
But, from a body/fender perspective a sedan has doors (either four doors or two doors) with supporting posts which contain window channels. A coupe whether two-door or four-door does not have window channel posts and when the front & rear windows are down, the opening is an opening which includes the opening of the front door and rear door (or if no rear door the opening itself).
I took a course called something like Bioenergetics or whatever (grad school)...primarily involved w/ various aspects of biological metabolism (blood circulation, body temperature, etc.) and energy expenditures mostly at a mathematical modeling level. Anyways, one of the texts we read & discussed was "Bumblebee Economics"
What any manufacturer calls a coupe is absolutely nothing more than marketing hype. Trace the history of the automotive term "coupe" and you'll be surprised where it began and how it began. Basically weld a roof to an open carriage.
Coupe (marketing) became a manufacturing "ploy" for a "sportier" look - to appeal to sportier/hip owners. Ha! Traditionally, a coupe was meant to be engineered w/ less cubic feet of interior space than a sedan (see Mercedes Benz & others).
But, from a body/fender perspective a sedan has doors (either four doors or two doors) with supporting posts which contain window channels. A coupe whether two-door or four-door does not have window channel posts and when the front & rear windows are down, the opening is an opening which includes the opening of the front door and rear door (or if no rear door the opening itself).
Coupes and sedans have nothing to do with posts or doors and everything to do with 33 cubic feet of rear interior space. Bigger is a sedan. Less is a coupe. Per the society of automotive engineers. This is why there can be four door coupes and two door sedans. A hardtop is the semi-colloquial term for a non framed window and no B pillar.
As I appear to be an automotive engineers for the moment still, I will expound. The industry calls the windshield pillar the A pillar. B is after the front doors, and hardtops don't have them. C pillars are after the rear doors, or rear side windows. If you're a car, that's the sail panel and the roof. If you're an SUV, that's after the rear doors, before the quarter panel windows. The D pillar is the back pillar for SUVs that the lift gate works with. Legally, cars are two things now. Trucks and MPVs. Multi passenger vehicles. I know this because one of my jobs is the certification tag printer support guy at the Indiana plant and that field is on the label.
The Dodge Challenger that I have for the moment is a coupe, yet it has a B pillar post and non movable sail panel window. Yet, it has non framed door, a la a GM G body. This is a coupe, despite the pillar, due to size. As an engineer, many times marketing is bull***** per Norm's comment above, and often contradictory. The Toyota RAV4 used to be on the same platform as the Corolla, thus it was the Corolla's crossover equivalent. The RAV is now bigger, and on a bigger platform, so there is a product made down here at the Mazda Toyota Manufacturing US plant, MTMUS, in Huntsville, called the Corolla Cross. It has "Corolla CROSS" (just like that) on about 15 different trim and light pieces because you MUST KNOW it is NOT a RAV4 because the RAV4 is bigger now! It's all marketing. The Cross is like for college girls, but the RAV4 is like for a woman at her first job out of school with a nice apartment and who is on the prowl. Lol.
I replaced the warmer switch on the BUNN coffee maker & reassembled. Planning to run 4 or 5 pots of warmed vinegar through the innards (water pipe). After waiting 15 minutes to hear that normal sound of water (vinegar in this case) warming up in the vestibule it became apparent you need to plug it in to warm it up. Senior moment. 🤔🤔🤔😫😫😫
Coupes and sedans have nothing to do with posts or doors and everything to do with 33 cubic feet of rear interior space. Bigger is a sedan. Less is a coupe. Per the society of automotive engineers. This is why there can be four door coupes and two door sedans. A hardtop is the semi-colloquial term for a non framed window and no B pillar.
As I appear to be an automotive engineers for the moment still, I will expound. The industry calls the windshield pillar the A pillar. B is after the front doors, and hardtops don't have them. C pillars are after the rear doors, or rear side windows. If you're a car, that's the sail panel and the roof. If you're an SUV, that's after the rear doors, before the quarter panel windows. The D pillar is the back pillar for SUVs that the lift gate works with. Legally, cars are two things now. Trucks and MPVs. Multi passenger vehicles. I know this because one of my jobs is the certification tag printer support guy at the Indiana plant and that field is on the label.
The Dodge Challenger that I have for the moment is a coupe, yet it has a B pillar post and non movable sail panel window. Yet, it has non framed door, a la a GM G body. This is a coupe, despite the pillar, due to size. As an engineer, many times marketing is bull***** per Norm's comment above, and often contradictory. The Toyota RAV4 used to be on the same platform as the Corolla, thus it was the Corolla's crossover equivalent. The RAV is now bigger, and on a bigger platform, so there is a product made down here at the Mazda Toyota Manufacturing US plant, MTMUS, in Huntsville, called the Corolla Cross. It has "Corolla CROSS" (just like that) on about 15 different trim and light pieces because you MUST KNOW it is NOT a RAV4 because the RAV4 is bigger now! It's all marketing. The Cross is like for college girls, but the RAV4 is like for a woman at her first job out of school with a nice apartment and who is on the prowl. Lol.
Agree. I previously read all that in the Society of Automotive Engineers stuff some years ago during a similar discussion w/ some friends; which, BTW, had no historical data/information pertaining to the original vehicles for which the term "coupe" was employed i.e. welded roof to an open carriage.
And, you know what I just read it all again (for the most part); and, honestly it's all hype, IMO - nothing more than hype. There are a multitude of coupes and what one person (engineer) designates a coupe, another engineer (or marketing bean counter) will call a different style a coupe. It reads like mashed potatoes.
June 27th, 2024, 03:04 PM
