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Mike - I've never heard of a chain which "flips". Can you be more specific or provide more detail. I'm not visualizing how the chain can flip.
Norm - Exactly, I couldn't visualize what he was trying to describe either. Hopefully the two of you will be able to isolate the problem since there are really not that many components in play here.
Only one item remains & I can't imagine you did this incorrectly but I'll mention it to cover all the bases. The chain "brake" should NOT be engaged while you are making any adjustments to the chain &/or bar.
Mike - I've never heard of a chain which "flips". Can you be more specific or provide more detail. I'm not visualizing how the chain can flip.
No , never heard of this and don´t understand fully when the chain "flips" ?? Have also used an Huskvarna 445 x-torq
for years without any issues. Have not had any chainproblems with my Stihl and Jonsered chainsaws either.
only one item remains & i can't imagine you did this incorrectly but i'll mention it to cover all the bases. The chain "brake" should not be engaged while you are making any adjustments to the chain &/or bar.
It's been an eventful morning, even for playing hookie. Got up early and took the car to Cadillac. It was easy to get it up on my trailer and lashed down, and when I got it off the trailer at the place they said they would have given me a ride home. Great. I asked if they'd pick me up when it's done. Yup. Then I went to Awful house for breakfast. Saw a couple people I haven't seen in ages, so that was a win. Then went to the trailer place I got the white trailer from and got a new lock for the side door, because the keys didn't work. That will be a win later. So now I've just had lunch(pizza!) and in a couple hours I'll take Mom to the doctor.
What I meant when I said the chain flips is it just comes off the bar. I'm surprised I didn't say sling. That's what Corvair people say when the belt comes off the pulleys. Anyway, there isn't anything that holds the bar onto the saw. The chain wraps around it and when the cover is on there's an adjustment to keep it tight. Those are the parts that went bad, the adjustment parts. They are now new. I put the manual down somewhere and it got covered up with something and I have yet to find it. Usually when the saw is off, the chain will rotate freely. When the saw is running, the chain doesn't move until I give it some throttle. But these days when the saw is off the chain doesn't move at all, unless it is loose enough to flip.
Rain. I feel like it won't ever stop. I think it's gonna rain all week anyway. Well, I'll do what I can.
Okay off to the doctor. Her appointment is at 3, but we'll have to leave two hours early to make sure we find it in time. The place is 4 miles away.
Anyway, there isn't anything that holds the bar onto the saw.
That's physically IMPOSSIBLE.
You can d/l any Husqvarna chainsaw manual from Husqvarna. I think there's ~100 YouTube videos demonstrating how to fasten a chainsaw guide bar to the saw, install a new chain & tighten a chain.
I got up this morning and it felt like Monday. I really got a lot done yesterday, more than a regular weekend. I should take time off more often.
Norm it's not impossible that nothing holds the bar on. There are two studs that stick out of the motor and there are two slots in the bar that slip over them. That's it. The chain goes on, the cover goes on, and that's it. You are probably thinking I meant the bar is free of everything at all times. When the cover is on yes it's holding the bar on. I meant when the cover is not on. I thought I found the manual yesterday but it was the one for my lawn mower. I have a Husqvarna lawn mower. Even at this late date I don't always think of looking on the internet for solutions.
Been raining for days. We've gotten about 5 inches of rain. It's supposed to stop but then get cold. So it won't dry up.
Don't know what I missed yesterday but there's only one robot working, so things are slow to get going. Apparently one of the new leads thinks we aren't doing a good enough job so the mechanics are meeting with the foreman at 1030. Like how in the hell would a new lead know how we're doing.
Hope everyone has a good day. My day will be okay until the Cadillac place calls and tells me what it will cost to fix my car.
Hey Mike - Huskie makes many models & some models have changed (been updated) over the years. But, like all petrol (Huskie) chainsaws, the bar is definitely mounted to the machine (saw). Some models the bar (mounting) bolts protrude through the clutch cover, others they're located directly underneath the clutch cover. This varies among various manufacturers, as well. Those two bolts with their attendant two nuts are the bar bolts & bar nuts. They hold (attach) the bar to the machine (saw). Some models have the securing bar nuts located under the clutch cover while others the bolts protrude through the clutch cover & the bar nuts are located external to the clutch cover - holding both the clutch cover to the machine (chainsaw) & the bar to the machine (chainsaw) via the bar nuts; but in both cases the two bolts have two nuts which are called bar nuts whose purpose is to secure the bar to the machine (chainsaw). Mounting of the clutch cover varies as suggested.
I think you said you bought some new parts. I think you said the parts involved adjusting chain tension. I'm suspicious you might think the tension parts hold the bar to the machine (chainsaw) but that's not the case. If by chance you may think along that line, you'd be tightening the chain far, far too much. The tension parts require slight adjustments to tighten the chain. You must first secure the bar to the bolts, then secure the bolts with the bar nuts until the bar is securely mounted. The bolts & their attendant nuts must be secure & tight - that's how the bar is mounted to the chainsaw (machine). Don't OVER TIGHTEN the nuts holding the bar to the bolts. Tighten the nuts to the bolts so the bar is secure but no so tight the bar can't move when adjusting the tension parts. The tension(er) must be able to move the bar enough to pull slack out of the chain or loosen the chain. Maybe it's at this mounting procedure you're tightening the bar nuts too much or not enough? The nuts have to be secure, but no overly tight where the bar can't move when adjusting for tension to remove slack in the chain. There's a slight tradeoff between overly tightening the bar nuts and having them too loose. Just keep in mind they are "bar nuts" they're not clutch cover nuts even if your model has the bar bolts protruding through the clutch cover. What model & year do you have? You have a 400 series e.g. 445, 445-e, 450, etc.?
Not knowing what tension parts you replaced, did you get the plastic rubber piece all the way up the shaft of the tension screw? The plastic piece holds the tension screw in place to keep it from becoming loose as well as being aligned correctly.
Any chance you removed the clutch cover while the chain brake was engaged? It would make re-installation of the clutch cover a PITA & very difficult to get the chain brake gear aligned correctly - creating a nuisance in securing the bar nuts properly onto the bar bolts. As you're re-assembling the clutch cover onto the bar hold-down bolts pay close attention the clutch cover fits "easily" onto the bar bolts. I should mention you'll notice there's a little metal or plastic "cog" (lack of the correct term) located in the clutch cover which must align as the clutch cover goes back on. That's unlikely your issue since that cog is what aligns to external clutch to the engine for starting. I'm suspicious maybe your chain brake was engaged when you 1st removed your chain bar? That makes reassembly a PITA since the chain brake (which is the band) is open applying force. I guess the model in this video is a single bar bolt not two bar bolts. In either case, one or two bolts ensure parts line up correctly w/o forcing anything.
Hi i,m in the woods now and cutting (?) down some birch , was thinking to sell to sawmill or maybe firewood.
People here wants birch most of all for firewood.
I have this system om the Huskvarna , no nuts and tools needed to replace bar and chain , very nice.
There is only two studs in the motor who fits the bar slot and then you flip out the fastener on the cover
and tighten both bar and cover at the same time. There it´s also easy to get access to the chain tensioner
without any tool .
I always check chain tension sometimes when i sawing , some people here has problem with broken
crankshaft on xpg models due to hard chain tension and often using the brake.
But i have nuts to secure cover and bar on my older chainsaws.
Glen - That's a nice chain tensioner. I've seen some other guys with Huskies that have that newer style chain tensioner. Looks pretty nice. Here in the states they use lots of different varieties of Birch for furniture, cabinets & flooring.
Thanks guys. I had something all spelled out and then went and talked to some people and now that probably wouldn't apply. So when I get home I'll check it out and see what I have compared to the videos. My saw is a Ranch Hand. I forget if its a 445 or a 455.
And now, lunch. Catered in food is always good. We'll be on break the next two hours.
Mike - Seems you often have catered in food. That's pretty sweet. I don't recall - does Big D pay for the catered food or is it mostly select Big D vendors who pay for catering in food to the various shops?
Today one of our vendors brought the food in. It's sort of a thank you for the enormous amount of money we spend with them. We're having another meal brought in next Wednesday, and it was announced yesterday when I wasn't here that we're all going somewhere off the airport for lunch on Friday. Hm. I don't know if the other shops get this but I would imagine so.
So today it was turkey. I think it was from Sonny's but there was no pork or beef. But it was good. Taters, mac and cheese, and cookies and brownies. Turkey? We'll all need a nap now.
I think the two most popular Birch varieties are yellow birch and paper birch.
Hi Norm , i don´t think we have that birch here . Birch are mostly used as firewood and pulpwood. Glasbjörk (Betula pubescens) and Vårtbjörk (Betula pendula) there are also some different sorts
of Vårtbjörk .
Mike , I looked at the Rancher chainsaws and you have a really nice chainsaw
Glen - Not sure what varieties of Birch reside in Northern Europe. There are well over 50 Birch varieties so you'd know better than me what's prominent in Sweden. They harvest lots of Birch here for pulp wood, also.
Yes, the Husqvarna 400 series (basically the introduction level of Rancher chainsaws) are excellent chainsaws for mostly residential use. They are IMO far better than any Poulan every made.
heh My Poulan to date has been the best chainsaw I've had. Not a terrific saw(good enough for me) but dependable and the only reason I replaced it is because it rusted from the inside out.
I think my long stretch of not going to the dentist is coming to an end. I have this broken tooth that's pretty sharp, that I've been nursing along for a few years. Well, the hole in the middle of the tooth is getting too big, and it's starting to hurt for days on end. I may finally need to get it looked at. As a kid I was traumatized by the dentist and as an adult I just wasn't going. Mom is going to the dentist on Monday, I'm going to make an appointment after she goes in. I don't want her to find out and then cackle about it. She's part of the reason I don't want to go.
No word from the car place. They were going to call me last night or this morning at the latest. I'm torn between just letting it go or calling them. It needs to be fixed either way but I don't want them ringing up a big bill without me even knowing about it. They work on it 6 hours the labor alone will be north of a thousand bucks.
I get a dental cleaning twice/year. Historically (pre-1600s) you had one single option - extraction. Of course this was also prior to the invention of antibiotics & anesthetics (e.g. Novacaine/Lidocaine) - even chloroform (anesthesia) wasn't discovered until the 1800s. Extractions were not carried out in aseptic conditions (for the most part) - you basically had to bring your own preferred bottle of whiskey for an extraction - no pain relief back then. They did know EtOH would kill bacteria so that was to your benefit - yet, the only benefit. It's surprising when you look at the historical literature - many folks (not a couple every so often here & there) but many died as the result of infected teeth as they succumbed to septic shock. POINT: A simple dental infection can (today) lead to sepsis & death if not treated ASAP. Glad you're going to a dentist.
I'm having Number 12 replaced with an implant December 18th. Osseous (bone) allograft performed in July, 2024 (four months prior) during tooth extraction. New crown affixed to this implant can be installed in another three months. December 18th will be last time they numb me up with that two foot long syringe.
I'm having Number 12 replaced with an implant December 18th. Osseous (bone) allograft performed in July, 2024 (four months prior) during tooth extraction. New crown affixed to this implant can be installed in another three months. December 18th will be last time they numb me up with that two foot long syringe.
Norm - Hope the implant and the follow-on crown go smoothly for you.
Chris - Thanks. Walk in the park. I think this will be my sixth implant(?) w/in the period of ~12 years. Much unlike Angel Cabrera (Pro Golfer). If I recall correctly he had ten implants prepared in a single visit (2017?). My GAWD - can you imagine. I think he won the Greenbrier Classic in 2016 (I was Marshal Chairperson Holes, 15, 16, 17) and was standing next to him when he accepted the trophy. He ran into a bit of trouble with Argentine authorities as two ex-girlfriends accused him of gender abuse. He was sentenced to two years prison, served his time and wanted to compete in this years Masters (Augusta). PROBLEM: He was denied a Visa by U.S. No Visa - no play golf; so, he couldn't compete at the Masters this year. Anyways, ten implant preparations in one sitting? Insane. Then, the last implant became seriously infected (for some reason).
Chris - Thanks. Walk in the park. I think this will be my sixth implant(?) w/in the period of ~12 years.
Norm - I am intimately familiar with the implant process as you may remember. During the 1st couple of years I was on this forum my wife had 5 done and then a partial bridge. It is an arduous process..
Bad news for me is that my teeth were significantly darkened/stained due to excessive use of Tetracycline as a child. The good news out of that is that I've had more than one Dentist tell me that although stained, the transformation of the teeth do to the Tetracycline also made them more resilient to tooth decay. I never get a cavity, and I still have all my original teeth except for 4 good teeth that were purposely extracted to make room for braces, and 4 Wisdom teeth.
Luckaly all original teeth still in the mouth but 4-5 of them have been rootfilled and several repairs. But it´s
a good thing the technique and tools getting much better than the 60-ties. But have learned one thing ,
and thats going to the dentist asap when somethings don´t feel good and not wait.
Frost on the pumpkin this morning. The Charger heats up pretty quickly and the heater will run you right out. It sure is loud when it's cold. All the road noise is amplified as it is transmitted into the interior. Eh, that's what the volume on the radio is for.
So I got the chainsaw to run. I figured out the chain was binding in the bar. After spreading a little oil on the bar and getting the chain on, I started it up and it was sluggish but the chain turned freely, and did well cutting. After cutting a few branches the chain slung off so I'm thinking I didn't have it adjusted just right, but I'm skeptical that I fixed the initial problem. But I'm headed in the right direction.
I'm not understanding why you need a crown on an implant. Doesn't the implant take away the need for additional dental work? I'm afraid the dentist is going to say I need something expensive to fix this tooth. It may have to wait until my overtime comes back.
Okay have a good day everyone. Slow goings here at work.
Mike - The implant is the foundational structure of the tooth. It is embedded into the jaw bone - it provides rigidity & strength - it is a "stud" (replaces the entire bone structure of the extracted tooth). A crown is affixed to the stud (implant). The crown provides the biting surface.
I'm not understanding why you need a crown on an implant. Doesn't the implant take away the need for additional dental work? I'm afraid the dentist is going to say I need something expensive to fix this tooth. It may have to wait until my overtime comes back.
Mike - Heed Norm's and other's warnings and have the tooth looked at ASAP. Tooth infections can lead to full body blood infections (Sepsis) that can damage your organs and even kill you. At the very least, the Dentist can either extract the broken tooth or do a root canal to eliminate the pain, and give you an antibiotic to kill any infection. Then you can discuss with the Dentist the potential and timeline for a future implant if that's something you want to pursue. Go to the dentist so you can get relief from the pain and protect the rest of your body. We want you around!
I would find irony in me croaking because of a tooth problem. Full body infection? I have those all the time. Cellulitis. Those really wack me out. One time Mom called and I said something unintelligible and the next time I didn't answer at all, and she called my sister and said I think Mike is dead.
The mechanics had a pow wow with the lead and foreman earlier. They wanted to be sure we as mechanics knew what we are supposed to be doing. A big waste of time, but hey, it stretched things out until lunch.
Doesn't someone who's had a joint replacement have to take some sort of medicine before they can have dental work done? I can't imagine what for but seems that's what I've heard.
Doesn't someone who's had a joint replacement have to take some sort of medicine before they can have dental work done? I can't imagine what for but seems that's what I've heard.
Never heard about that Mike. But a person i know almost died because of infections because he waited to go and fix the tooth. He was in hospital for some weeks .
Good start to the morning. I hope this starts us back to getting our normal amount of work out. We don't seem to be short on wheels, but if the shop routinely put out 130+ wheels for an extended amount of time, and then all of a sudden struggles to put out 90, it won't look favorable upon us to the higher ups.
There's a guy on the military vehicle forum I look at that's giving away 6 wheel assemblies he took off his Deuce. He's about an hour from me. I said I'd take them. I said I was interested in a pair and he said he wants them all gone at once. Done! I love spare parts. A popular upgrade for these trucks is Super Singles and the takeoffs seem to be tough to get rid of. Probably because a Deuce and a half is a common vehicle and lots of people have lots of spares.
Okay question, I'm pretty sure at least one of us has done this in the past. I have a 55 gallon drum I want to cut the top off and make it a burn barrel. It used to have used motor oil in it and the inside and outside have a film of oil. If I stuff it full of branches and pine needles and leaves and light it off will it flare up and burn up half the neighborhood, or will it just burn off and not be a big deal?
Okay got some wheels, and it's getting on to break. No overtime this weekend so it's really Friday. Hope everyone has a good day.
Edit: Okay I know the barrel won't burn down the neighborhood but will it flare up and become troublesome?
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It may flare up once. Put it in a safe place and start a small fire in it. Add wood as needed until big fire. It will probably randomly burn off oil, the idea is to get it, controlled, to as big of a fire as you would ever do, then let it run for a while. Once the impregnated oil is burned off, it's gone. It'll smoke and stink until it does, but it will do it during the first session. I'd just start small and be careful as you build up the fire size the first time. The whole thing may be engulfed in flame for a time while it burns off the oil, do it in a safe place.
Mike - Remember to drill or punch some decent sized holes in the bottom and the around the sides of the barrel near the base so the barrel can draw a draft when burning. The holes in the bottom will also help it drain when not in use and it won't rust out as fast. Set the edges of the bottom of the barrel up on some bricks or cinder blocks so it can draw the draft in through the holes in the bottom.
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I believe I have told this story before, but it bears repeating.
I had the fortune of being a little kid and going hunting with my dad and his friends. At the camp, there was a device named Nebuchadnezzar, after the king, and called Nebbie. Nebbie was two 55 gallon drums with no ends, welded together in a tube some 8 feet tall as it stood on a heavy expanded metal grate on concrete blocks. After the second evening of the weekend, all kitchen and meal trash would be bagged, ceremoniously carried over to Nebbie, and deposited along with a bottle of charcoal lighter. Nebbie would be fired up, and would draw spectacularly as it burned through about 4 or 5 large trash bags of trash and would get orange hot. I mean, this thing would GO, enough that it was anticipated entertainment.
The hunters, at this time, very drunk, would sing the following song, and I have no idea why.
Did you ever see Sally make water
She could **** such a wonderful stream
Well it goes for a mile and a quarter
But you can't see her *** for the steam
Apparently there was a second verse, courtesy of the internet that was never heard.
She raised her *** up towards heaven
And let out a wonderful pee
Well it looked like a cave in the mountain
But it smelled like dead fish in the sea.
I, of course, being about 8, thought this was the height of humor, but that's how a bunch of drunk guys burned trash in the central Florida swamps circa 1989 or so.
That's an awesome story. I didn't know the story behind Nebuchadnezzar so I looked it up. It's apparent to me that the drunk hunters named the garbage disposal after him due to his all-consuming nature. The song is a mystery to me but hilarious.
The Cadillac place called and said it would be 3000 to fix my car. I said no. He seemed surprised. Really? What fool is going to spend that on a 12 year old car that is worth little more? I'm going to ask my neighbor the hot rodder if he can help. If he can't it gets traded and I'll take a bath. Just a few days more and the Fiat would have stayed and the SRX would have been the trade. Although if the Fiat was staying I wouldn't have needed to trade.
Nice out but still a bit chilly. At least it ain't raining.
The Cadillac place called and said it would be 3000 to fix my car. I said no. He seemed surprised. Really? What fool is going to spend that on a 12 year old car that is worth little more.
Wow, that's frickin crazy! That's just nuts, I don't think I could stomach that either! That sucks.
Auto repair prices are crazy. A friend had to have his transmission repaired on his Chebby pickup and it was $7000! Well todays $7000 is about $700 in the 60's- I figure 10 times ... gas then .35 gal- now 3.50 a gal- car 3500- now 35000 etc...