Corona Virus - COVID-19 - By The Numbers
April 1st, 2020, 10:22 AM
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Seriously? What is gained by these comments?
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April 1st, 2020, 11:02 AM
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Obviously, there remains a significant amount of controversy within the scientific community regarding ACEi and it is a very hot topic currently being addressed.
Antihypertensive drugs and risk of COVID-19? – Authors' reply
Evidence suggests that ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers may improve prognosis in COVID-19 hypertensive patients
Renin–Angiotensin–Aldosterone System Inhibitors in Patients with Covid-19
Antihypertensive drugs and risk of COVID-19? – Authors' reply
Evidence suggests that ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers may improve prognosis in COVID-19 hypertensive patients
Renin–Angiotensin–Aldosterone System Inhibitors in Patients with Covid-19
April 1st, 2020, 11:42 AM
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April 1st, 2020, 11:44 AM
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April 1st, 2020, 12:07 PM
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I've had it with this thread. Nothing really to see here - absolutely nothing at all. Nothing more than a 100% complete waste of time.
I'm off to practicing self distancing.
BYE! BYE!
I'm off to practicing self distancing.
BYE! BYE!
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April 1st, 2020, 12:18 PM
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You report my post for breaking the forum rules, then curse at me (breaking a forum rule).
April 1st, 2020, 01:13 PM
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This thing isn't about to go away quickly, so patience is key. Hang in there as best as everyone can and stay safe!
April 1st, 2020, 01:28 PM
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April 1st, 2020, 01:29 PM
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I forgive him.
April 1st, 2020, 04:15 PM
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I wish the A-holes who continue to inject political stuff in this thread would lose their internet for a month. You can't follow the forum rules, so why should we even be concerned with whatever else you post in the forum? It's quite pathetic to continue to inject contraband into this thread for those of us that want to read about and discuss the virus without the CNN pundits providing their political content. It's getting really ridiculous.
April 1st, 2020, 04:25 PM
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April 1st, 2020, 05:13 PM
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April 1st, 2020, 10:05 PM
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Sweden 239 / Finland 17 deaths as of now. You clearly see how its ramping up now at Sweden versus Finland. No quarantine versus quarantine. "Ramping" is maybe wrong term when total death toll is still so Small on both cases, but comparing prosentually to each other it serves its purpose.
Yesterday, by current calculations, they announced at news that we dont face the shortage of breathing machines. On same topic, not hugely publicly shouted ( probably to prevent panic), Spanish doctor told that they are already at situation when they now have to decide who gets to use breathing machine, and whos left without ( to die). That must be mentally hard decision, which can affect the ones doing the choice for their lifetime after that pandemic. It also reached main news here when your USNS Comfort docked on New York, just as an side note.
So, new norm here is, that army and police guard routes leading to our Capital region. Restaurants, bars, schools, gyms, libraries etc etc etc, all closed down. Media, and government, is slowly turning to next catastrophe which is going to be Financial, which follows this. European Union also shows more marks of cracking due to pandemic, its really pulling contries farther apart, and situation before pandemic wasnt too good to begin with. Its not even that long ago when most optimistic ones publicly dreamed of forming European Union as federation, where countries would be only merely states.
Yesterday, by current calculations, they announced at news that we dont face the shortage of breathing machines. On same topic, not hugely publicly shouted ( probably to prevent panic), Spanish doctor told that they are already at situation when they now have to decide who gets to use breathing machine, and whos left without ( to die). That must be mentally hard decision, which can affect the ones doing the choice for their lifetime after that pandemic. It also reached main news here when your USNS Comfort docked on New York, just as an side note.
So, new norm here is, that army and police guard routes leading to our Capital region. Restaurants, bars, schools, gyms, libraries etc etc etc, all closed down. Media, and government, is slowly turning to next catastrophe which is going to be Financial, which follows this. European Union also shows more marks of cracking due to pandemic, its really pulling contries farther apart, and situation before pandemic wasnt too good to begin with. Its not even that long ago when most optimistic ones publicly dreamed of forming European Union as federation, where countries would be only merely states.
April 1st, 2020, 11:31 PM
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I don´t know if you can read Swedish Inline but here is an link why other nordic countrys have less death
than Sweden ( as we are told
) :
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/s...-ovriga-norden
They mean that the stage of the pandemi develop are different between the nordic countries ???
( Wish i could write better in english )
than Sweden ( as we are told
) :https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/s...-ovriga-norden
They mean that the stage of the pandemi develop are different between the nordic countries ???
( Wish i could write better in english )
April 1st, 2020, 11:44 PM
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I don´t know if you can read Swedish Inline but here is an link why other nordic countrys have less death
than Sweden ( as we are told ) :
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/s...-ovriga-norden
They mean that the stage of the pandemi develop are different between the nordic countries ???
( Wish i could write better in english )
than Sweden ( as we are told
) :https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/s...-ovriga-norden
They mean that the stage of the pandemi develop are different between the nordic countries ???
( Wish i could write better in english )
Both are true. But B leads to A, we are slowing it down, you are not so much, so of course youre ahead on the curve. When was the first confirmed corona-virus infection detected in Sweden? Local media wont give an answer to that. Here it was end of january. Only it gives an answer that you had your first Corona-virus death 10 days earlier than us ( 11.3 vs 21.3).
Its somewhat gross to say, when speaking of human lives, that in the end its interesting to see how different approaches worked, both in human lives, and economically.
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April 1st, 2020, 11:59 PM
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Here are some info about the confirmed Corona cases in Sweden:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...ologiskt-lage/
Internet Explorer :
https://fohm.maps.arcgis.com/apps/op...46c37f152f1392
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...ologiskt-lage/
Internet Explorer :
https://fohm.maps.arcgis.com/apps/op...46c37f152f1392
April 2nd, 2020, 01:33 AM
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No one and no country could be prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude. You can't stack enough equipment or train enough people to stand-by just incase something happens. I don't like most presidents but, don't blame this one for our problems. You can reach way back if someone just has to point fingers. If you have to poke somebody in the nose right now the lion's share would of nose bleeds would fall on the Chinese. So, from a US politics standpoint, laying blame, right now, is pissing up a rope in a windstorm.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
April 2nd, 2020, 03:44 AM
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That is very well put and I agree with you 100%. I hope others that are putting the blame get to read what you have said!
April 2nd, 2020, 04:19 AM
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Location Confirmed Recovered Deaths
Canada 9,731 1,541 111
United States 216,362 8,878 5,133
Current stats. Canada has around one ninth the population of the US, so should be seeing around 570 deaths, yet less than one fifth that at this time. No politics allowed so I'll venture no opinion on why
Canada 9,731 1,541 111
United States 216,362 8,878 5,133
Current stats. Canada has around one ninth the population of the US, so should be seeing around 570 deaths, yet less than one fifth that at this time. No politics allowed so I'll venture no opinion on why
April 2nd, 2020, 04:41 AM
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Yet you did..... It has to be Trumps fault and no way it could be because of the fact you have natural social distancing with less population but more land mass. As I said before. People can twist numbers in any way they want for their agenda. Use flawed numbers to push what you want. Obviously, politics can't be avoided with as much hate as there is out there.
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No one and no country could be prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude. You can't stack enough equipment or train enough people to stand-by just incase something happens. I don't like most presidents but, don't blame this one for our problems. You can reach way back if someone just has to point fingers. If you have to poke somebody in the nose right now the lion's share would of nose bleeds would fall on the Chinese. So, from a US politics standpoint, laying blame, right now, is pissing up a rope in a windstorm.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
X 2 and very well pinned
April 2nd, 2020, 05:24 AM
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No one and no country could be prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude. You can't stack enough equipment or train enough people to stand-by just incase something happens. I don't like most presidents but, don't blame this one for our problems. You can reach way back if someone just has to point fingers. If you have to poke somebody in the nose right now the lion's share would of nose bleeds would fall on the Chinese. So, from a US politics standpoint, laying blame, right now, is pissing up a rope in a windstorm.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world?
Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
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more of the the guy in the room who sits and listens to the conversation
and maybe occasionally has something chip in.
I have been following this Thread from the beginning and have learned quite a bit from "Norm"
For the Members who always are looking for someone to blame for their problems try looking in a mirror
Norm, don't let the Morons drive you away, the Thread View count of nearly 14,000 would imply there are quite a few Members reading this.
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April 2nd, 2020, 05:59 AM
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Well put Schne442. I gotta play a little music to hear while reading the posts. Thank you Norm for all the good info.
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April 2nd, 2020, 06:06 AM
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Jmo, but the people locally that have died, all were elderly with conditions or near elderly with conditions. Here's a couple links to give hope. (I think we're like our camshafts, we need zinc to help from being "wiped" out.)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-his-birthday/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-his-birthday/
April 2nd, 2020, 06:21 AM
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Yet you did..... It has to be Trumps fault and no way it could be because of the fact you have natural social distancing with less population but more land mass. As I said before. People can twist numbers in any way they want for their agenda. Use flawed numbers to push what you want. Obviously, politics can't be avoided with as much hate as there is out there.
While you were partying on spring break we were already shutting down, everyone on the planet could see what was happening.
I'll leave it at that
April 2nd, 2020, 06:39 AM
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What does the Canadian collage student do for Spring Break ? Burrrrr
April 2nd, 2020, 07:03 AM
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You also have a fraction of the number of people traveling in and out of your country as we do. We can do this all day and is not going to get us anywhere. In the end you will hate Trump and play the finger pointing game. I suppose you believe the numbers coming from China also?
April 2nd, 2020, 07:34 AM
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The video Kenny linked is interesting news. When I served in Iraq and Afghanistan I was prescribed hydroxychloroquine. That stuff is NASTY. I recall that it gave me wild, disturbing dreams. Like most of my battle buddies I took it for about a week and then never again. 
That's great if it is effective vs. coronavirus though.
That's great if it is effective vs. coronavirus though.
April 2nd, 2020, 07:56 AM
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You also have a fraction of the number of people traveling in and out of your country as we do. We can do this all day and is not going to get us anywhere. In the end you will hate Trump and play the finger pointing game. I suppose you believe the numbers coming from China also?
April 2nd, 2020, 08:15 AM
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April 2nd, 2020, 08:38 AM
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No one and no country could be prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude. You can't stack enough equipment or train enough people to stand-by just incase something happens. I don't like most presidents but, don't blame this one for our problems. You can reach way back if someone just has to point fingers. If you have to poke somebody in the nose right now the lion's share would of nose bleeds would fall on the Chinese. So, from a US politics standpoint, laying blame, right now, is pissing up a rope in a windstorm.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world? Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
Give the mods a break. Like I mentioned before, these are extraordinary times. While I know some folks are looking for the stability of rules and enforcement, others are looking for an outlet. We are all under layers of pressures that we have never experienced before. None of which we put upon ourselves...for the most part. We are cooped up in one of the freest countries in the world with, quite literally, no where to go. It runs head into our very nature. I don't know about you folks but, us Texas boys don't care much for being told where we can, or cannot go. Certainly not when. Who would have ever thought that our churches would be closed while the liquor stores are open? For the most part BTW, their sales are up damned near 50%.
We can only control the controllable. Being kind to others is still within each individual's control. So, step back, give everyone some distance (pun intended), and be kind. Isn't there enough bullchit going on out in the world? Good luck, be safe and wash your damned hands.
Studies in past years HAVE SHOWN that alcohol sales increased during times of "stress" (recessions, unemployment, etc.) Why they increase with lower household income is the mystery.
Location Confirmed Recovered Deaths
Canada 9,731 1,541 111
United States 216,362 8,878 5,133
Current stats. Canada has around one ninth the population of the US, so should be seeing around 570 deaths, yet less than one fifth that at this time. No politics allowed so I'll venture no opinion on why
Canada 9,731 1,541 111
United States 216,362 8,878 5,133
Current stats. Canada has around one ninth the population of the US, so should be seeing around 570 deaths, yet less than one fifth that at this time. No politics allowed so I'll venture no opinion on why
Yet you did..... It has to be Trumps fault and no way it could be because of the fact you have natural social distancing with less population but more land mass. As I said before. People can twist numbers in any way they want for their agenda. Use flawed numbers to push what you want. Obviously, politics can't be avoided with as much hate as there is out there.
People can twist numbers.........they are called "Alternative facts" --KellyAnne Conway.
Grumbler is from Canada. I very much doubt he cares one way or another about Trump.
You also have a fraction of the number of people traveling in and out of your country as we do. We can do this all day and is not going to get us anywhere. In the end you will hate Trump and play the finger pointing game. I suppose you believe the numbers coming from China also?
If you believe Trump telling you Putin didn't meddle in the 2016 elections, you'll believe China's numbers.
Called a few few things in lifetime. "You disgust me. You're pathetic." First time I ever been called that. To me 100,000 to 240,000 is Disgusting and Pathetic to me!
"No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s — going to be just fine."
"We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. ... we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it.
"We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape."
The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!
Very under control in USA. Stock market starting to look good to me looks go to me!
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“I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away. They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
The 15 cases within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero
"Anybody that wants a test can get a test."
"I've always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
My rating are the greatest
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"No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s — going to be just fine."
"We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. ... we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it.
"We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape."
The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!
Very under control in USA. Stock market starting to look good to me looks go to me!
deflects criticism
“I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away. They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
The 15 cases within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero
"Anybody that wants a test can get a test."
"I've always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
My rating are the greatest
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April 2nd, 2020, 08:55 AM
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