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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 05:01 PM
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I just received documentation from Vintage Vehicle Services, in Oshawa Ontario which details options my car came with from the factory. I am wondering about the 10-Ebony Black stripe listed. Does anyone know what stripe this refers to? I was thinking about the GT stripes that outline the hood bulges and stripe that outlines the trunk and upper portion of the tail lights. W-29 hood stripe was not listed with the RPO codes. What do the CO experts here say?
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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 05:11 PM
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A 1969 442 would have come with the RPO Y73 GT Paint Stripe as standard equipment. This is the double pinstripe that outlines the raised areas on the hood. The RPO W42 Dual Stripe Hood was the optional wide stripes on the hood that were standard on the W-30, W-31, and W-32. Of course, today, any 69 442 that doesn't have a repro 70 fiberglass hood has had the W42 stripes added.

RPO Y73:




RPO W42 (ignore the location of the obviously non-factory W-30 decal...):



And just for grins, this is the opening line in the Barret Jackson description of that "W-30" pictured above...
(emphasis added)

Originally Posted by Barrett Jackson
A true well restored 1969 Oldsmobile 442 W-30...
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
A 1969 442 would have come with the RPO Y73 GT Paint Stripe as standard equipment. This is the double pinstripe that outlines the raised areas on the hood. The RPO W42 Dual Stripe Hood was the optional wide stripes on the hood that were standard on the W-30, W-31, and W-32. Of course, today, any 69 442 that doesn't have a repro 70 fiberglass hood has had the W42 stripes added.

RPO Y73:




RPO W42 (ignore the location of the obviously non-factory W-30 decal...):



And just for grins, this is the opening line in the Barret Jackson description of that "W-30" pictured above...
(emphasis added)
Thanks a bunch Joe! I am a purist but I really love the W42 stripes. (-: I think I will have those added while at the paint shop.
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The RPO W42 Dual Stripe Hood was the optional wide stripes on the hood that were standard on the W-30, W-31, and W-32.
Joe, the W42 stripes were optional on W32-optioned cars. I think initially it was standard, but a follow-up bulletin before production changed that.

Anyway, to Doug: GM of Canada docs are famous for specifying the wrong info for the stripe. In this case, it says Ebony Black, but you need to go find the docs here to see if the stripe paint code is the same code as Ebony Black:

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...2_Info_Kit.pdf

Go down about 3/4 of the way and you'll find the doc that shows they're two different paint codes.
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
Joe, the W42 stripes were optional on W32-optioned cars. I think initially it was standard, but a follow-up bulletin before production changed that.

Anyway, to Doug: GM of Canada docs are famous for specifying the wrong info for the stripe. In this case, it says Ebony Black, but you need to go find the docs here to see if the stripe paint code is the same code as Ebony Black:

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...2_Info_Kit.pdf

Go down about 3/4 of the way and you'll find the doc that shows they're two different paint codes.
thanks a bunch!
Old Oct 27, 2020 | 05:24 AM
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Joe, the W42 stripes were optional on W32-optioned cars. I think initially it was standard, but a follow-up bulletin before production changed that.
Good info, Diego, thanks. Do you happen to have the bulletin that announced that? I'd be curious to see it for my records. As you know, there is precious little factory documentation on these cars.
Old Oct 27, 2020 | 05:13 PM
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Joe, here's where I hang my head low in shame:

I had a dealer book that came with all these bulletins. But then I sold it on eBay maybe 10 years ago and thought, "Oh, @#$%, I need to scan those bulletins!" So I bought a hand scanner and scanned them all, but as you can imagine a hand scanner doesn't do a very good job. I completely ruined an opportunity to have a nice set of 1969 bulletins!

So where are those scans? I am not sure. I just looked on this laptop and they're not here.They still may be in a chip inserted in the scanner....but where did I place the scanner?

I'll look a bit but here's something to tide you over in the meantime.....



Old Oct 27, 2020 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego

I'll look a bit but here's something to tide you over in the meantime.....
Diego, Awesome, thanks. It clearly shows W42 as optional. I had also thought JL2 was mandatory, but apparently not per that document.
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 04:32 AM
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F60/15 tires on 15x7 wheels as standard on the W32? I thought only the '69 H/O got that size. Thanks for posting that Diego, Your scanner didn't do a bad job, it displays well!
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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Hmm. I was always under the impression that the wide hood stripes were standard on all 69 W-cars. Good to know.

I also find it interesting that 3.91 or 4.33 gear options were listed under "mandatory." Yet, G92 (3.42) is mentioned with V02, but doesn't list 3.42 anywhere else.

The way I interpret this "GM option-speak" is 3.42 is standard and with that you get V02 cooling, with G80 mandatory for all axle ratios, and 3.91 and 4.33 (dealer-installed) are available as no cost options, but V01 would be needed if anything other than 3.42 were on the build sheet. Of course, I could be wrong. I don't know much about the rare W-32, other than it would be fun to own one.

Old Oct 28, 2020 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rob1960
F60/15 tires on 15x7 wheels as standard on the W32? I thought only the '69 H/O got that size. Thanks for posting that Diego, Your scanner didn't do a bad job, it displays well!
Good eye. I completely glossed over that. Note that the alternate RPO P81 is the F70x14 redline tire. The only 7" wide SuperStock wheels available in 1969 were the H/O wheels. I doubt any of these were actually built that way. There are other examples of option announcements like this that were later corrected when they were actually produced.
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rob1960
Thanks for posting that Diego, Your scanner didn't do a bad job, it displays well!
I wish I could say that's true, but the item I posted is something I found online awhile ago.

I know about the W42 change because I had both bulletins, one the original and another the update.
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