Based on what you said, I wouldn't worry about the new fuel pump.

- Eric

 

@ oldcutlass - Eric... me giggling tooo...R u laughing at my story and the protest with express lube...Im laughing too...Its not even about the money or fixing my car anymore...

IT's all about the PRINCIPLE NOW..

I just talked to my boss and explained everything that has gone on..I have 4 weeks left of paid time off, she has given me permission to take the time I need to do what ever it takes to settle this...

Something I didnt mention to u all earlier...while I was protesting EXPRESS LUBE
2 SHELL female employees attacked me and tried to take my sign..YEP its on now..1 female mgr..came at me very aggressive and told me to get the fk off the shell property so I did, she continued to argue with me..then before U knew it some BIG girl came running out after me like a red cannon ball so I braced my self for the impact..she did manage to tear the sign out of my hands and grab my arm which left bruises on me... at that time I threw my glasses off and was ready to kick some azz..but she immediatley back up and we argued some more...

as much as I wanted to beat her down...I was not there to fight Im there to explode the services and crooks at Express Lube so I just called the cops..
I filed assault charges against the girls from shell, I also contacted the SHELL corporate office....

Now you can really laugh Eric...HELL YA...I DONT PLAY....

IT WAS little old me against 5 district managers and about 8-10 mechanics....
I stood right on front of express lube corner and strut my stuff..I had an over whelming response of people pulling over telling me the horror stories on that location..

This one man that lives in the area was taking pictures...he says you got them running scared look at them giving free hot dogs away to save their REPUTATION....

It's all fun n games till someone loses an eye!!!!

 

did the oil change place put on a new filter? or did they leave the old one on?

 

Thats they only thing they changed, was the filter

@ Eric MDchanic - Yes I agree I dont think I have a defective fuel pump

 

I know all about making new hobbies Terry. Hi five...

 

Eric aka oldcutlass - you know you talk in riddles and sometimes I dont understand you...lol....could you explain what you mean making new hobbies

 

Your new hobby of making this oil change business miserable.

 

lol ok ok gigglin....well...I was born in November, which means I am a Scorpio...so my sting is very powerful.....you cant back a Scorpio up in a corner..theres only one way out..and thats with the tail up and ready to sting baby!!!

 

Oh, Jeez, you're a Scorpio.

That explains a lot...

- Eric

 

Omg Eric i was just thinking of you...gigglin ...muayyyy.muayyy.LOOK LOOK.....lol geez no one thought of this...look at the gasket they gave me...i told him they don't match...look at this crap..I checked my oil again after running for about 15 mins...smelled like gas still...it has to be the frking gasket....


Yes a Scorpio *--*

 

Either of those gaskets could work, but I can't tell which one would work best for you.

You have to line up the gasket with the bottom of the carb, to make sure that no passages are covered.

- Eric

 

I don't know...the one that fits perfect in all the right places is what I took off...the other open one is the one I bought..mim taking it back. .i think its leaking from here...just for peace of mind...ima go on the hunt for a match

 

Yeah the more open one looks like it would reduce the flow smoothness.

- Eric

 

I wonder if that's the choppiness I feel and here....

 

so the new gasket makes the carb sound a lot smoother...but there is still white smoke ching-gow....the motor sounds good.....


the smoke reminds me of a giant FART of smoke....almost like if something is clogged..


Im just shooting suggestions, by all means I can diagnose some things


But when it comes to the internal motor crap - im really clueless
or is it the crappy carburetor....
could the exhaust be causing the white smoke.
How can I tell if water is getting in the motor
I bet u its something like so simple, Im over looking...maybe Im looking too deep


Geez I need a go to guy here....

 

Go to the back of the car while it's running and stick your nose up to the pipe and see what it smells like.

ATF smells very distinctive, and motor oil smells different from that.

Coolant smells sweet. Take a finger and run it along the inside of the tailpipe and then lick it slightly with the tip of your tongue - if it tastes sweet, it's coolant.

- Eric

 

Omgoodness.. U want me to stick were and lick what....ok...i smelled it earlier..got super high...i turn idle wayyyy down..and adjusted the mixture which seemed to reduce ALOT of the fumes...but smells like oil to me...but I will go taste.

 

Ok eric what did I tell you I am a scorpio,


but I didn't taste anything....


I just still smell fumes is all not as bad after I turned idle way down geez and the other screws air mixture stuff...sounds better...I will do ATF tomorw

 

@ oldcutlass

I think you might like this picture

I had about 6 district and Area Managers, plus mechanics

The 1st I day I protested I passed out a few flyers, after that I just made some signs,

But the Posters the mechanics say if you bring in Terry's flyers you get a oil change for 19.99 which is the given price, also a free hot dog and chips...Yep it was too good too see them squirm in their pants..

They dont know what hit them....

 

Looks like you had help. What intersection is that?

 

Hillcrest and Babcock,Balconies Area at that time I was on the other side..I had to get a few pics of the mgrs. vehicles...they called balconie cops 2 times...balconies told them sorry there's nothing they can do... *--*


You see the copper!!! yep they were back n forth

 

Oh, the Ritzy side of town. That's odd that a quickie lube pulled that kinda crap over there. What did the cops say?

 

Well maybe that's why there doing it there..they think we aren't going to say anything


Balconies was actually super nice to me, couldn't believe it..they said Im doing everything right about getting exposure, just for me not to step on their property..
So I didn't I just went from corner to corner, took 4 days off work
So where the boys are I would actually go over to that very corner and walk right in front of them I had a 4 1/2 ft high sign, plus my 60 inches there..


Then when the District mgrs. got there they called Balconies again, this time they didn't even come and talk to me..Those guys there were preying on the elderly and women no doubt in my mind..I had a lot of people pull over with there own stories

 

Is it just billowing smoke? It is possible your transmission modulator took a dump, if so its sucking ATF straight into the intake and burning it. Does it have a new fuel pump? If not the diaphram can go bad and it will pump gas straight into the bottom end of the motor, as into the oil. Even a new fuel pump can be defective. Todays corn gas on old rubber is not good. Check your oil level to see if it stays on the full mark, or if its increasing, or decreasing more than normal. Of course it should never be increasing. Is your coolant level staying full? I use Berrymans B12 carb cleaner and have for 40ish years, I think its better than Sea Foam hands down for cleaning the carb and combustion chambers. I pour it straight into the carb vent and some, not too much down the carb bores. Then start it, use the spray and spray it straight down the carb while reving the engine a little, maybe up to 1000 or 1500 RPM'S. It will clean it!

Steve

 

Steve, not sure what u mean by billow smoke...but sure about modulator....fuel pump is good changed last week..i will keep an eye on oil levels too...and I should be getting a rebuilt carb this wkend...but I asked a qstn..cant member what they said...but what type of oil does everyone you...30w 40w. Thank u Steve....

 

Hey Eric ANY Eric will do - whats the diffrence between the electrical choke and manual..any pics would help plz

 

You can't use an electric choke with your carburetor.

A manual choke has a **** on the dashboard connected to the choke mechanism through a cable.

- Eric

 

Terry, a rebuilt 7042250 (correct for the 72 CS 350 4bbl) has this kind of choke. It's called a 'bi metal' choke coil. The phenolic cover has chipped by the adjustment slot, but the coil is attached on the other side by a rivet IIRC.



If you want it to work properly you'll also need to reinstall the heat tubes that are blocked off on your intake manifold and run to the back inlet of the carb and to that threaded nozzle on the side of the bi metal coil housing. Your call.

 

Ok it's a Q-Jet rebuilt with a electric choke, he's been following my posts here 70Wxxx, he's seen what I have, with the pictures uve all seen....

hmmm this concerns me...ayayaya

 

Whether divorced, hot-air, or electric, they're all bimetallic choke coils.


That is a divorced choke carb from a Buick.

There is no way she could ever make it work with an auto choke, of any kind, on her engine.


Terry, if you're considering replacing the entire carburetor, that's a different story.

- Eric

 

The difference between an electric and a manual choke is that an electric choke is operated with a power source and is automatic, no driver manipulation needed. A manual choke is purely mechanical and is controlled through a cable that runs from the dash to the carb. The driver pulls and pushes this cable to vary the opening of the choke plate.

 

@ Eric - MDchanic - From what I understand he's rebuilding a whole other carb fit for a cutlass..I just want to be done with the carb thing this week..If hes doesnt come thru then...I did find a PLAN B - a carburetor shop on flores street

HOPEFULLY He will come thru!!!!

Ok I understand what u mean Eric - oldcutlass thank you

 

Okay, so if you're replacing the carb that's on there, you will have to either;

a). Get a three terminal oil pressure sender and do some wiring, to set up the electric choke,

b). Get all of the little tubing parts that are required to operate the correct hot air choke on your carburetor, or

c). Get a manual choke kit and install a manual choke, which will involve drilling a few holes.

- Eric

 

I like answer B, i have a lot of extra hoses

do u have pic of each what u r describing (*_*)....u r making me worry..he did mention it would be ready to go...ayayayaya ericcccccc

 

I want to be a typical chic ok just this ONCE

I just want to bolt it down crank the car then drive off...lol

 

Potato potahtoe, it was in regards to your comment of mechanical vs electric. Just pointing out what the choke coil assembly on the QJet looks like and other info I'm sure you'd like to classify as wrong too.

Really? And you just pulled that whimsical bit of nonsense out of your head? That is a 7043251 in my picture and I just happen to know that because it was in my hand when it was taken. It's from a 1973 OLDSMOBILE 455. It would work just fine on her car. All it would need is different metering jets. I don't see how it wouldn't work on her car, the basic carb is no different than the 7042250 and her engine was designed for it. The heat tube plate on her car looks to have the heat tubes blocked off, so if she decided to get replacement heat tubes, it most certainly would work on her car.

Oh, I guess I have to PROVE that its a 7043251 or you will just continue to say it's from a Buick...

 

From our discussion you said your were getting an electric choke.

 

@ Eric oldcutlass - Yes just checked the txt..he says its electric...

 

a). Electric Choke:



You need a Standard Automotive Products PS64 sender, available for , or http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-pressure-switch/duralast-oil-pressure-switch/123802_0_0/, as well as other places, and you need to wire it as Joe shows in https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/tech-editors-desk/31892-electric-choke-wiring.html.


b). OEM Setup:

You will need the Choke Stove ($36.50 at Fusick)



and the Choke Tubes ($23.50 at Fusick)




c). Manual Choke:

You will need a manual choke kit ( , or http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MTM0/55101/N1073.oap?ck=Search_N1073_-1_-1&pt=N1073&ppt=C0261, as well as other places.







Ain't gonna happen.

- Eric

 

They're ALL bimetallic springs, Allan, Potatoes, Potahtoes, or Pasta.

You said: "a rebuilt 7042250 (correct for the 72 CS 350 4bbl) has this kind of choke. It's called a 'bi metal' choke coil."
You constructed your post to distinguish the type of choke you were talking about from all other types of possible chokes, thus implying that only the type you were talking about was bimetallic. That is incorrect.



I'm not talking about the carb. YOU have on your shelf in Canada, Allan, I'm talking about the carb. SHE has bolted to her car in Texas.
It's a Buick carb., with different choke coil connections:



- Eric