thanks for the video allan

 

Wow!

I didn't know that the Pertronix unit used that awkward ring under the rotor.
the Crane unit and at least one other (forgot the name) just use the existing points cam.

Looks Mickey Mouse to me.

Thanks!

- Eric

 

Well todayis a happy day for me I got my engine block and all new parts for the build!!!

So now the 1st time engine builder questions start so please have paitence with me

I have Clevite crank bearings and noticed one has no oil hole and no oil gruve....and its marked lower....is there any special place for this one and are these bearings matched to each other...if so how do I tell???

I looked through the olds manual but could not find the info for this.....I guess I should have took more pics
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just found out my answer to the solid bearing on youtube...it goes on the 1st bottom cap...as for the others they have the oil gruve and oil hole in both top and bottom...is this ok??

 

Yup.

You want those holes to line up with the oil passage holes in the block - shouldn't be a problem, the tabs should lock right into the right place.

The boxes should tell you which bearing is which.

- Eric

 

Ok here is my next question....Last evening I decided to check the piston ring end gap and i think I might have the wrong piston rings!!!

The machinist ordered all the parts for me and he printed off a sheet with the specs with the piston ring end gap
TOP RING 0.012" - 0.014"
2ND RING 0.010" - 0.012"
OIL 0.015" - 0.050"

So when Im checking the top and 2nd im getting around .018" end gap.....so is there a way to tell if I have the wrong rings???

The ring set are HASTINGS
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pistons
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You are checking it in the hole, after squaring it with a piston crown, right?

- Eric

 

yes sir...about 1 1/2 to 2 inches down in the bore squared off using a piston!!

 

Hey guys got the crank in tonight and ready for the next step end gaping rings and piston install....dont laugh at my videos...lol this is my first engine build and im here to learn...stay tuned

 

Coming along nicely Roger. I don't have anything technical to suggest but am following this thread because I know one day it will be my turn. Do you have a scheduled date you're planning to have it all done?

 

Looking good!

 

Thanks guys......Here is another stupid question, Does anyone have a pic of how to properly space the rings???

I found a pic in the olds manual but where is the pin in reference to the pic.....so im getting confused and would realy do it right once!!
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well It was a late evening in the garage but I managed to get all the pistons in......took a little longer being my first time!!

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Nice job Roger. Did that vid I sent you help at all?

 

Yes Allan.... Thanks it just took a little longer being my first time !!!!

 

'first time?' LOL Roger. Hang a shingle out on the barn "VIRGIN Engine Rebuilder". Glad it's moving forward. Everyone starts somewhere...

 

Now it on to the timing chain and sprockets and cam!!

So i have the double roller cam and sprockets and the lower sprocket has the 3 keyways ...stock....advanced...retard timing and it says it will retard or advance timing + - 2*

what would be the best set up with my cam specs with 10 to 1 compression pistons bored .030 over


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Cam timing is no place for guesswork. If you do not have the tools, and don't want to borrow or buy them, have someone else degree your camshaft.

 

Thanks octania, do I need to degree it......can I just set it to stock settings?
will it be a big difference if I dont?
This is not going to be a race car But I would to make it run as best as posible

 

After reading my cam card a little closer it shows its advanced 4 deg right from comp cam......so I decided to go with the stock ...straight up setting!!

 

You can certainly trust the makers of the timing set and cam to do everything exactly right and assume that it will be fine. Many folks do that.

Having done it a few times, I find the tool investment is not that bad, the process is not tough, and the peace of mind well worth it, to degree in the cam.

So, 71 Delta...
Did your motor have huge round spacers like 1+" thick between LH? mount and engine?

 

I have no idea about any 1" spacers........as for the degree of the cam I might put the word out this week in my area to see if someone with the right tools and skills to help me with this.......I dont want to spend extra$$$$ on a tool that I might use once!!

If I cant find someone I will just leve it at the stock setting!!

 

Scooter if you have a cloyes double roller timing chain and the cam already has 4 deg adv in it I would line it staight up and you should be fine! It will have really good bottom end and because of the cubic inches and that cam it will run great especially with the torque it will produce. If you were building a car to run at the drags ocassionally I would degree the cam no matter what but since it is only a good driver and no racing it should be fine. Let us know how it runs once its done!!! Great job on your first build!

 

I bought offset dowel pin cams from Mondello probably more than 20 years ago, I'm still waiting on a engine to use them on! Evey timing set or cam I have installed has always been right on the money as for a degreeing the cam. I'm a believer in Cloyes quality.

 

Getting there

 

Made more progress today after a not so good day yesterday with my front crank seal......and thats all im going to say...lol Allan knows what im talking about!!!!


Its now ready to paint

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well she be 80% done......I know its not the orignal colour but its GM blue so thats ok with me!!!
I still have the bolt on the starter... motor mounts...yada yada yada and then cross my fingers and hope it runs!!!

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Looks great.

 

Scooter you dont mess around! It looks great in fact the blue has the hue of Olds blue just no metallic but it fine!! I have painted some of my Olds engines black, green, red, olds blue, olds gold and olds copper. They all look good!! Looking forward to hearing it running!!

 

Thanks guys...lets just hope it will run!!

I have a question about exhaust manifold gaskets.......I have the victor gaskets and one side has shiny and kinds textured and the other side is kinda smooth and dark in colour.........does the shiny textured side go the the manifold and the smooth side go the the head side???

thanks

 

Correctamundo.

Good luck!

- Eric

 

Thanks Eric

 

it runs!!!!!!!!

 

Scooter you did a great job and I love your car!!! I dont see many two door delta's I think they are more rare than 442's. I also love the Delmonts and the Toronado's I have always wanted a 68 Toronado maybe when I grow up I will have one haha!!

 

Thanks...I still have to tune and adjust the timing to where it runs best....didnt have time to do it last evening!!! Cant wait to take it out for a spin!!!

 

Well done!