Another morning in the garage and I got the second head de-valved and cleaned up the valves

so whats the best way to de-grease the heads...let them soak in.a big pail of parts cleaner??

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few mor things done in the last few days.....I lapped all the valves
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I also removed the crank...I numbered all the crank bearings and and measured the crank...here are the measurements of the crank with my verniers from back to front.....are they in spec......forgive me, i have my olds service manual in the mail!!
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1. 3.003"
2. 2.997"
3. 2.997"
4. 2.998"
5. 2.999
keep in mind it was measured with my verniers...so it might be off a hair!!

 

Roger, it sounds like it's well within specs

 

So her is a question.....the crank journals look the be in great shape.....is there any need to have it polished????? Or can I just purchase new bearings and install them??

 

Cleaned all the pistons tonight with oven cleaner and it works great!!!!
Tried soaking them in sea foam.....brake clean and it didnt even touch the carbon!!!

 

tonight I removed all the frost plugs and most of the oil plugs.....my car was equiped with a block heater and when i removed it I found a frost plug inside the block.......not good for coolent flow...lol

I still have two oil plugs to get out of the rear of the block....one allen key style that I kinda striped. boy is it in there tight...might leve that one for the machine shop!! The other is the square one which i have no tool for at the moment....but all in all its moving along nicely..

I hope to drop the heads ang block off at a machine shop this week..is it highly recomended to have the block and heads decked on a rebuild???

I hope I dont have to remortage the house for this project...lol

 

Heat should work on the plug....I cant remember if the square on came out with a ratchet extension bar?

 

Here's the information you need.

- Eric

 

any good ideas on how to remove the dowl pins in the block that hold the head in place!!

 

That looks just like the end on the ratchet extension bar...

 

I made a tool for the square plug out of a socket extension and it worked great!!

Im now wondering how does one go about removing the dowl pins that line up the heads......kinda need to remove them to have the block machined do I not???

 

Yes, but instead of being either 3/8" or 1/2", it's 5/16".

- Eric

 

one stubborn oil plug!!!!

 

[QUOTE=scooter123;516014]I made a tool for the square plug out of a socket extension and it worked great!!

Im now wondering how does one go about removing the dowl pins that line up the heads......kinda need to remove them to have the block machined do I not???[/QU
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The machine shop can do that without chewing any up but that can of double d forty and some heat and a small channel lock with twisting should work i remember chewing some up before but i just put the chewed end in the block...but now i cant remember if that was an olds block

 

Bummer having to drill good job though...do you have a torch or mapp or even propane?

 

I did have a propane torch i could have used to heat it up i guess,,,,it was the hardest plug/bolt ive ever had to remove!!

So the pins and cam bearings I think I will leave for the machine shop to remove!! I hope to get some pricing from a few different shops this week and hope to get a start on this!!!

 

Good luck at the machine shop...if you bring any lose parts make sure they write everything down so nothing gets lost

 

no lose parts....just the crank which I will tag with my info and my block and heads which has all the valves removed!!!

I will do all the assembly myself!!

 

Block, heads, crank are off to the machine shop tomorrow....cant wait to put this engine back together!!

 

Great work so far! Engine looks to be in very good shape.
One can see why I did not pull the engine in the underhood reso i did 1.5 years back - it could have ended up in a rebuild.

So I guess it is too late to sell you an anti-MAW hat?

 

haha.....Well its true, once you start you cant stop......I started to clean up the starter tonight!!
When I start the car sometimed it makes a buzzing sound....when it dont start...not sure if thats the best way to describe the sound but....may be time for a rebuild???
It looks to have a newer solenoid...I will put up pics later!!
Is there a rebuild kit I can buy from napa???

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so today I called the comp cam tech line and gave him the specs on my car and this is tha cam that he recomended......CL-42-221-4
I an keeping my stock heads and springs/valves

Any info out there about this cam???

Thanks

 

Roger,
Haven't been on here much lately with curling taking up a lot of my time lately. Very cool to see you progressing with the starter. Do the full mean documentation on it with plenty of pics. I am planning to pull mine and rebuild it in the spring so anything I learn from you will be bonus!

Sorry I don't have anything to give you on the cam. Maybe post the specs for others to look at?

 

This is the first time for me rebuilding one Al ....so I might not be the best teacher.....I went to remove the retainer clip/ring above the gear tonight and it shot across the DAAAAAAAM garage somewhere...spent 40 min looking for it and its still out in space somewhere...lol .....I hope its in the rebuild kit!!!!!!!

To be honest there's not much to the starter!!

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LOL Roger, that's too funny!

Yup, most of the time it's just to replace the bushings and brushes then slap er back together. I did one years ago on my 83 Regency under the guidance of my neighbor who was a mechanic. That's a long time ago though but the parts look familiar. With new bushings it might feel a little tight going back together IIRC.

 

Got the rebuild kit today for my starter

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cleaning the commentator.......very Important
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All new parts
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the difference in the old brushes and new
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Test run of the starter!! Seems good to me!!!

 

Happy day today.....got my Oldsmobible in the mail today!!
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Well I ordered a comp cam and lifters yesterday....I spoke with one of there tech guys who recomended this cam...I told him what mods the car had, so its on the way!!
I hope it will be a bit better than stock!!

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Well getting a little bored waiting for the engine at the machine shop and wanted to be in the garage, so I decided to make a tool to install the cam!!

I know its nothing special and some guys dont even use one but..why buy it when you can make it right!!

Cheers
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Great job on the starter!
It sure doesn't sound like much when not under load - this is the first time I heard one run off the car... Great test setup.
Did you find the clip that flew off? When i move and clear out the garage, i will surely find piles of hardware that have launched themselves into the unknown...

 

never did find the clip...thank god one came with the rebuild kit lol!!

 

Well Got a call from the machine shop today telling me my crank will need to be ground and I wont be able to use my old pistons.....****.......I guess my build just got a little more $$$$$$$$$

I guess its to be expected!!

 

Well looks like my engine will be getting bored .030 over with 10:1 pistons...Got the first of the new parts in today...new comp cam and lifters....Boy do we ever get screwed on customs and shipping.....$40 and $70 for customs

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Roger, the price of everything is going up. Where did you buy the parts from? I've found that doing a 'bulk order' from one location helps cut down the financial rape that goes on with shipping and customs a bit.

Did you order pistons yet?

 

The engine shop will be ordering the pistons for me!!

 

So today I was a little bored so I took a look at my distributor which has a msd rotor and a petronix electronic ignition.

Here is a little video of what i found is this norman???

 

Get rid of that overpriced hot rod rotor and get a normal rotor that screws right to the advance unit.

- Eric

 

Hey Eric....care to share pic of what your talking about.....I want to keep the electronic ignition.....so I think that black ring is needed is it not???

 

No, it's not 'norman', ( ) neither is is 'normal'. Here's a vid showing how it should have been installed.