1966 Starfire 425: Electronic ignition upgrade (Pertronix)

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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
so you can’t debate anything I’ve said? because it’s true

you’re technically illiterate on this subject.
I don't mind debating but only with a guy who treats other guys like they are humans. You have a way of being an A Hole about everything. I know your a sharp guy but your demeanor erases any credibility you have. When you asked me if I wanted you to explain how a Hall Effect module works, I told you naw. For the record, I never said the M&H module was the only one to use. I don't care if it works with a MSD Ignition, I use them to eliminate the points in a stock car to retain a stock appearing ignition.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
It works the same as points. It has the wire to the negative side of the coil and the power feed & 12V bypass to the positive side of the coil. It's the best simplest bolt in ignition I have ever used. Why anybody would use a Pertronix when you have this module that requires absolutely no cutting or splicing wires or the need for a ballast resistor.
https://wiringharness.com/breakerless-se-ignition
there is no need for a ballast resistor when using the Pertronix module…don’t know where you got that from. if a stock coil has one, and you install the Pertronix with a stock coil, you leave the coil and resistor as it is. new high output coils don’t need a resistor so they get used without one when it’s used with the pertronix

there is no cutting and splicing of wires. each wire goes to a connection point where there already is a connection.

the pertonix is simpler and easier to install because there is no special rotor mods needed like the M&H .








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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
there is no need for a ballast resistor when using the Pertronix module…don’t know where you got that from. if a stock coil has one, and you install the Pertronix with a stock coil, you leave the coil and resistor as it is. new high output coils don’t need a resistor so they get used without one when it’s used with the pertronix

there is no cutting and splicing of wires. each wire goes to a connection point where there already is a connection.

the pertonix is simpler and easier to install because there is no special rotor needed like the M&H .

I have never used a Pertronix but years ago I saw one that required the use of a ballast resistor. I've never had to use any special or different rotor button with the M&H module.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
I have never used a Pertronix but years ago I saw one that required the use of a ballast resistor. I've never had to use any special or different rotor button with the M&H module.
you have to modify your existing rotor mount for the reluctor. It has to be exact or your window openings in the wheel could cause a difference in spark timing to each plug. There’s spacers to adjust the spacing. Rotor needs some mods too








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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
you have to modify your existing rotor mount for the reluctor. It has to exact or your window openings in the wheel could cause a difference in spark timing to each plug. There’s spacers to adjust the spacing

It has been a while since I used one and didn't remember that. I stand corrected.
Old Nov 9, 2024 | 06:27 AM
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Hi @66-3X2 442 & @CANADIANOLDS ,

thanks for the intensive discussion on the topic. My intention was not to have invented ice cream (even though this would be a great achievement), just share experience and some pics. I read this forum since a year now and it helped me a lot, so I just wanted to give back some of my experience and pictures since especially these helped me a lot in my works.

Both products and vendors which you talk about for sure have great products, otherwise customer feedback would be terrible and the companies probably non-existing today. Your discussion showed me that there are more vendors of electronic ignition modules than I was aware of (Just knew Pertronix and SummitRacing, wich is probably a labeled something else).

Having an embedded electronics background myself, I also think a piece of electronics with a hall sensor and sometimes a small micro which manages dwell or rpm limiter is no rocket science. Even though sometimes the sales prices of these modules which weigh <20 grams makes me believe there must be a bit of Kryptonite inside ;-). But for sure this is because the sales volumes of such products are probably small and the good work of the staff needs to be paid, which is valued by me.

Let's take it with humor, I am very happy that there are multiple vendors existing which serve the market with good stuff and the thread discusses several options.

Peace, Steffen
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