How about an Olds engine masters style competition?

Old Aug 11, 2022 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
I am not sure what the actual hardness of a connecting rods is. I'm sure they must be well over R"C" 30. But no one can quote a hardness number. If I recall correctly they are 1170 steel. I am thinking the connecting rods are about R"C" 45.
Trust me, I know R"C". Many years ago I machined punches and die pots that were R"C" 58-60. AISI A-2, A-9, O-1, D-2, D-5, M-2, T-15.
I am no longer working, so I don't have access to a Wilson Hardness tester.
factory rods are 1140 and will come in around 19 or 20 on the C

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Old Aug 18, 2022 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
0.7% carbon.
Inconel is some tough stuff to machine. Annealed is not bad, but heat treated is way different. I've machined Inconel 718, 750, and 901. What kind of dies were they using it for ? Forming dies ? Bending dies ?
lol forgot to place decimal in front, but they were forging tracks for tanks with the dies.
Old Aug 18, 2022 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bernhard
Are you going to 4 bolt main cap the block?
BTR turbo DX Build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6dR0WCFRmA
I'm seriously thinking of going ahead and do the 4 bolt main while I'm at it. Plan was to build natural aspirated street engine with most power I can get and still have somewhat street manners.
Old Aug 18, 2022 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chadman
A two bolt main DX will handle a good amount of power especially if you have a good crank in it.
That's what I've been told that all I needed really was studs, I just knew a guy had some 4 bolt caps for a good price. But will I need 4 bolts if I decide to add boost later?
Old Aug 18, 2022 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
factory rods are 1140 and will come in around 19 or 20 on the C
Thanks for correcting me, I checked back on the GM Heritage site and it was listed 1140 steel for Olds connecting rods. I didn't see any hardness specs, however.
Hardness readings below 30 on the R"c" scale are usually not accurate. .40% carbon is above the transitional area between "case hardenable" and "full hardenable" steel.
Old Aug 18, 2022 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
Thanks for correcting me, I checked back on the GM Heritage site and it was listed 1140 steel for Olds connecting rods. I didn't see any hardness specs, however.
Hardness readings below 30 on the R"c" scale are usually not accurate. .40% carbon is above the transitional area between "case hardenable" and "full hardenable" steel.
Right, to me even 30 is too soft for rods and base off how many people say that's a weak point of the factory engine they're probably 30 lol. We use to normalize and air cool for like 35
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Right, to me even 30 is too soft for rods and base off how many people say that's a weak point of the factory engine they're probably 30 lol. We use to normalize and air cool for like 35
I would expect the connecting rods to Rockwell checked on the "B" scale and converted to the "C" scale to give an accurate hardness.
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