62 F-85 Cutlass Prop Shaft parts

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Old November 12th, 2019 | 11:30 AM
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62 F-85 Cutlass Prop Shaft parts

This is a two-piece prop shaft. The parts I need are in the center link yoke portion of the prop shaft assembly.Looking for the propeller shaft ball stud repair kit (5.590) Contains a spring, seats and a seal. Would consider a whole prop shaft. Would also appreciate any leads on someone who could build new parts.
Old November 12th, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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I likely have what you need but I will warn you, These parts are not cheep. I will need to know what style center link you have though. There were two different styles. One has a very shallow spring and then other had a deep spring with a top hat. This top hat style has a hole drilled into the drive shaft to allow more room for the spring. Do you need the slip yoke with the ball stud and the half moon pieces or just one or the other or the entire thing? Post some pictures if you can and I could help determine what style you have. The prices can run anywhere from $50 for a used spring and half moon pieces to $250 for the entire thing NOS and anything in between depending on what you want and need. I will post pictures later tonight on the two different styles. Where are you located?
Old November 12th, 2019 | 01:48 PM
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Thanks for reaching out. I have the prop shaft exploded drawing which shows a shallow spring. I don't know what a 'top hat' means or looks like. I will have to get under the car and see what I can do about pictures. Just finished with the u-joints and bearing assembly, but did not really look closely at this aspect before it got re-assembled. Any further info or parts numbers you have will help me confirm that we have the correct parts. The Prop shaft ball stud repair kit part number is 5678021 (the seal only is part number 5674149). I am located in NJ

Over the many years I have had this car, I sometimes have noticed what the parts books call second type applications. The car was built in Lansing in May of 62. 2 Dr Post coupe, 4 bc
I would say at the least, I would need the seats, seal, and spring, but I have located an NOS Seal Only in PA.
Old November 12th, 2019 | 02:33 PM
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With when your car was built it is almost for sure that it will have the shallow spring. The late 62 Jetfire had the upgrade and many of the 63's had it from what I understand. I will get a picture of the slip yoke with the ball stud. If you can get an NOS seal it may not be a bad idea to get it. I have good used parts but no good used seals. I would rather not sell any of my NOS kits yet and those kits are the only seals I have. I have not looked into it to see if there is an aftermarket seal that will work but I suspect there is. I will have to see how many of the NOS parts I have before I could commit to letting any of that go. I want two full NOS kits for my cars as backup, anything other than that I can sell. I will look a little latter at what I have NOS







Old November 12th, 2019 | 03:03 PM
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Looks like from this that you can drill the driveshaft to accept the new style spring but not sure where the "dealer Letter 63-71" could be located. I don't think it would be difficult to drill but I have more of the shallow spring parts than the deep.


Old November 12th, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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Great Pix! Awesome illustration of the difference! Thanks very much! The prop shaft on the right with the shallow spring is like the prop shaft diagram. I am thinking that I will need the center link yoke as well. If you can photgraph that aspect, it would be very helpful. I have a stash of parts in MA and one here in NJ, but I am not sure though whether I have any more prop shaft assemblies, will start that search immediately. Good used parts are fine if you don't want to sell NOS stuff. I get that. I have placed the order for the NOS Seal. Thanks again for your help!
Old November 12th, 2019 | 04:25 PM
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Thinking that this is an instruction sheet included with the repair kit from late 62/ 63...idk how to find that referenced letter. Will do some searches though. Lost contact with the Olds Club of America advisor for 61-63 F-85 who I last remember being in Berlin, NJ. Gotta re-connect with OCA for that info. Agree with you that the 'upgrade' is really that though. Much more pressure exerted by the new spring. Please advise regarding the center link yoke. Thanks.
Old November 12th, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Here is a slip yoke. The better used one I have is either made different or is missing the collar around the ball stud. It looks like it was made without it but maybe they just pop on. The one I have with a beat up collar, I can't get the collar to come off so I am not sure. My NOS ones have the collar. I have been busy with my girls tonight so it will likely be tomorrow evening before I can get back to this.




Old November 13th, 2019 | 05:13 AM
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Yes, it looks like from the diagram that the collar is part of the center yoke (splined) because there is no part number, but it it is visible. Whenever you can get back to this is fine. Family first. Thanks again.
Old November 13th, 2019 | 05:37 AM
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Looking at it, I believe that the collar is needed because it holds the seats and the seal around the ball stud. It is harder to see the other side, but I think both yokes have a collar. On the other side it holds the spring in place. If it was replaceable, I would think it would be called out on the drawing as a separate part. I will check my parts manuals today and see if there might be a part number for something like that.

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Old November 13th, 2019 | 07:54 AM
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The collar is a sheet metal tube pressed on over the forged yoke. It is only a dust shield. The split seat is in the mating yoke and sits inside a feature that is machined integrally to the yoke. The outside of this feature is spherical to ride inside that collar without binding, but again, that's just to keep dirt and mud out of the ball and seat.
Old November 13th, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Thanks, Joe. Yes, you can see a machined collar below the ball stud on one the pics that JensenRacing77 was kind enough to send. I'm guessing that I could prolly run without the dust cover or fabricate one if worst came to worst. Would prefer to do it once and do it correctly. It is a nice weather only car, after all. LOL Really appreciate the quality info from you guys!
Old November 14th, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Hav a 62 f-85 conv parts car

May hav what you need
Can look n c if you'd like
In Lansing
Michigan
Old November 17th, 2019 | 04:21 PM
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Have you had a chance to see what parts you have that you would be willing to sell? Please advise. Thanks very much!
Old November 17th, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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Have you had a chance to think about what parts you have that you would be willing to sell? Please let me know. Thanks very much!
Old November 17th, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1962 F-85 Cutlass Guy
Have you had a chance to think about what parts you have that you would be willing to sell? Please let me know. Thanks very much!
Sorry, I have a one track mind and spaced it. Looks like the best used parts I have are these. They are in good shape but the yoke is missing that ring.

I would want $75 for these and I will cover shipping. If you wanted to pass on the yoke I would sell the spring and cup halves for $50 shipped.

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Old November 18th, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Awesome! Can I trouble you to give me an overall outside measurement of the seats? I got the NOS Seals in the mail on Saturday, and they look kind of small. However, they are definitely the correct part number. Just want to confirm that the seal will in fact cap over the seats. Thanks very much!
Old November 18th, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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5674149 is the correct part number. I am coming up with .868 for the ID of where the seal goes and .600 for the OD of the ball.

Old November 20th, 2019 | 07:41 PM
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62 parts car

I didn't forget about the shaft & hav good news
the enire shaft is intact & with only 70,000 is tight, yet flexible as it should b
My initial inspection led me to believe it wasnt identical as I didn't remember its cv joints locstion
Was finaly able to devote enough time readin the thread & confirming that it is indeed , I believe what you need
I removed it when i got th car 20 years ago all caps & needles as well as tranz tail & one on th pig too
Would hav replied sooner but quite offen navigation here is difficult to impossible
Pls call or txt me at 989 721 9432
Old November 20th, 2019 | 07:42 PM
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62 parts car

I didn't forget about the shaft & hav good news
the enire shaft is intact & with only 70,000 is tight, yet flexible as it should b
My initial inspection led me to believe it wasnt identical as I didn't remember its cv joints locstion
Was finaly able to devote enough time readin the thread & confirming that it is indeed , I believe what you need
I removed it when i got th car 20 years ago all caps & needles as well as tranz tail & one on th pig too
Would hav replied sooner but quite offen navigation here is difficult to impossible
Pls call or txt me at 989 721 9432

Old November 21st, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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Just a question on this two piece drive shaft with the slip yoke- Did the Buick Y body cars use this system too?
Old November 21st, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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Just a question on this two piece drive shaft with the slip yoke- Did the Buick Y body cars use this system too?
Yes. The two piece driveshaft allowed a lower floor. This is why Pontiac used the "rope drive". Keep in mind that all the Y-body cars were derived from the Corvair platform that didn't have any driveshaft.
Old November 21st, 2019 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Yes. The two piece driveshaft allowed a lower floor. This is why Pontiac used the "rope drive". Keep in mind that all the Y-body cars were derived from the Corvair platform that didn't have any driveshaft.
Good to know. I assumed that that was the purpose of the two piece shaft. I looked at an F-85 that was converted to a one piece driveshaft and that car rode on a higher stance and you could see the driveshaft hanging down a little bit. I don't know if they lifted the car for driveshaft clearance or it was just the big wheels they put on, but it just didn't look right.

Are the Buick and Olds driveshaft parts the same?
Old November 24th, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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If this dont fix it.....it aint broke

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Old November 24th, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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Proper prop shaft

Complete prop shaft 62 f-85 convertible
Old November 24th, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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If this dont prop your shaft....dont know what wood

Not certain you rwad reply on this....but plz reply so i know you got th pick this site rappidky loaded aftet 3 hours of dicn me round
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