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i THINK the power steering, crank and water pump are from an A/c car. But not 100% as I bought the car disassembled.
the Compressor is a Saden from Vintage Air with the passenger side bracket option.
the Pullys do NOT line up the way I think they should.
notice the innermost Waterpump/crank Groove does not meet up with innermost Power Steering?
the Alternator meets with innermost Power steering and middle Crank and Water Pump.
the Outtermost water pump and crankmeet with outtermost Power Steering.
this leaves the Two Saden grooves with nowhere to attach!
(my reference is my GMC Motorhome with a 455. The innermost power steering, crank, waterpump all one belt. Then middle of Waterpump and crank meet with Outter of Power steering and the Alternator. Then the outter Water pump and Crank meet the A6 compressor)
the Pulley on waterpump and crank MAY be from a 350. The car was a Cutlass Supreme i THINK with a 350. The engine and other stuff is a mix the previous owner left me in a pile. The valve covers are from 73 Olds Toronado. I am not positive of the power steering pump bracket.
As usual, mixing and matching pulleys, water pump, and brackets doesn't work.
It would help to know which pulleys and water pump you have. My gut feel says that you have the water pump and crank pulleys from an earlier motor, and a water pump that is too short. I'm sure the VA kit is only designed to line up with 68-72 pulleys, since no vendors assume any Oldsmobiles exist outside those years. Your alternator bracket is also from that vintage, so it matches the A/C. I'm guessing that you need a KC crank pulley (P/N 399405) and a KF water pump pulley (P/N 399404) for a 5.6" water pump. If you have a 6.1" water pump then you need a KK water pump pulley (407534).
I have no clue what the previous owner had or bought. here is a shot from Alternator. I may be parallax but seems like alternator may actually line up ok with innermost Crank and Waterpump pulley groove and the Power steering is the pulley that is too far toward front of car?
How much room is there between the correct 399405 Crank pulley and 455 shroud? I am getting close. Any way to tell which pulley i have?
I would not buy anything until you figure out which water pump you have. Your current water pump, WP pulley, and crank pulley all match each other. They just don't match your current accessory brackets or pulleys. The pulleys I noted above will have the innermost groove where your middle groove is currently, the middle groove where your outermost is currently, and the outermost groove the same distance closer to the shroud. Obviously you need BOTH the crank and water pump pulleys to match.
I think you need to look at that again. Looks like 5 5/8" to me.
parallax again. From my view above looks like 6. I just tried it from under and it looks like 5.5/8. Lets say when I bought it at Autozone i told the teenager “1970 olds 442 HP” and I got the right thing?
OK, 5.6" water pump. You want the KC/KF pulleys I mentioned above.
Your current crank and WP pulleys are from a 78-80 Olds non-A/C car with A.I.R. pump and Calif emissions.
OK, 5.6" water pump. You want the KC/KF pulleys I mentioned above.
Your current crank and WP pulleys are from a 78-80 Olds non-A/C car with A.I.R. pump and Calif emissions.
good lord! I knew the lot of dissassembled Oldsmobile car was a 1970 Cutlass Supreme and a little 73 Toronado, now add in a 78-80! Ok thank you. Does the Power steering pump “match” up?
good lord! I knew the lot of dissassembled Oldsmobile car was a 1970 Cutlass Supreme and a little 73 Toronado, now add in a 78-80! Ok thank you. Does the Power steering pump “match” up?
Actually that's also a 78-80 pulley, but it should work for you.
Why do you ask for help if you are just going to ignore it? And why do you think that a Chevy-centric vendor like OPGI has a clue as to what is correct for an Olds?
One more time: your water pump is a 5.6" pump. You need KC/KF pulleys. The OPGI pulley you bought, and the one you have, are for a 6.1" pump.
They only have two 3 groove listed. The second row one is wrong. I ordered top one with no GM part number listed. What came did not match photo. I weirdly they do say the part number for third row one but not top row one. What came was the third row one. I think they miss labeled the parts?. There is NO stamp on it to confirm what K number it actually is but clearly it is wrong
Just wondering if the comp lined up ok. I am trying to do the same thing but have a 6 in water pump. I am waiting for the vintage air kit to arrive. Right now i have a ks crank pulley, cant read the water pump but it does line up with the crank.
Last edited by SIXPS; August 19th, 2020 at 04:45 PM.
What compressor bracket are you using? I’m using Vintage Air 141008.
Their guys told me they didn’t have a bracket for a 67 Olds 330 but the install instructions said it would fit so I tried it and it works perfect for me.
I have no clue what the previous owner had or bought. here is a shot from Alternator. I may be parallax but seems like alternator may actually line up ok with innermost Crank and Waterpump pulley groove and the Power steering is the pulley that is too far toward front of car?
How much room is there between the correct 399405 Crank pulley and 455 shroud? I am getting close. Any way to tell which pulley i have?
So im guessing the last owner must've screwed up my brackets? My alternator is on passenger side and ac pump is on driver side? Makes zero sense as the lines come in from passenger for ac and battery is on driver side. Alot less lines to run? Guessing this is why the ac fitting at 12oclock has worn a hole from hitting hood. Was told to clock ac compressor but there is no more room for adjustment in bracket.
July 20th, 2020, 12:50 PM
