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Old Oct 30, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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Any ideas on how to fix this?

Noticed this crack in my dash on my '72 Supreme today. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good way to repair it. I really don't wanna replace the dash pad, so any help would be appreciated. It's on the passenger side about 5 inches in from the edge.

Old Oct 30, 2021 | 07:37 PM
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There is no good way to repair it.
Old Oct 30, 2021 | 07:44 PM
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Don't even attempt to fix that crack - neither with the dash in-place nor via removal of the dash. You'll involve yourself in a complete nightmare. Some things are best left "as-is" as they provide character & charm.
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Don't even attempt to fix that crack - neither with the dash in-place nor via removal of the dash. You'll involve yourself in a complete nightmare. Some things are best left "as-is" as they provide character & charm.
I like that answer Norm. Thank you. Any advice on preservation going forward?
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 04:03 AM
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I like that answer Norm. Thank you. Any advice on preservation going forward?
Dave - I don't have much experience on what products work best to protect plastic dashboards. I've always used Armor All Original Protectant as it's supposedly formulated to protect against UV & I've heard good things about Turtle Wax Dash & Glass Interior Detailer as it is supposedly formulated to protect against UV. On any vehicle I've ever owned I also crack the windows to reduce heat buildup from IR.
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Dave - I don't have much experience on what products work best to protect plastic dashboards. I've always used Armor All Original Protectant as it's supposedly formulated to protect against UV & I've heard good things about Turtle Wax Dash & Glass Interior Detailer as it is supposedly formulated to protect against UV. On any vehicle I've ever owned I also crack the windows to reduce heat buildup from IR.
I normally do crack the windows when I'm out and about, and I keep it covered with a good quality cover when I'm home.

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Old Oct 31, 2021 | 05:26 AM
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How could this happen all of a sudden? Seems like it might have been abused at one point.
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 07:47 AM
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How could this happen all of a sudden? Seems like it might have been abused at one point.
The dash material is made with addition of plasticizers that create flexibility.

When those evaporate (forming the film you clean off the inside of your windows), the plastic becomes brittle and eventually cracks from shrinkage that accompanies loss of those plasticizers.

The crack itself is indeed sudden. But, to your point, it was likely that early owners didn't treat the car as a garage queen. It could have been parked in the sun for years. The crack could have been delayed by avoiding heat that accelerates the degradation.
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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The dash material is made with addition of plasticizers that create flexibility.
When those evaporate (forming the film you clean off the inside of your windows), the plastic becomes brittle and eventually cracks from shrinkage that accompanies loss of those plasticizers.
The crack itself is indeed sudden. But, to your point, it was likely that early owners didn't treat the car as a garage queen. It could have been parked in the sun for years. The crack could have been delayed by avoiding heat that accelerates the degradation.
Adding to Gary's statement, it should be noted plasiticizers, while having been discovered about the same time as PCV PVC (Poly Vinyl Chorinated ~1875), both PCV PVC and plasticizers did not reach global (historical) volumes in commercial vehicle production until ~1950s. The types of plasitizers has changed remarkably since the 1950s (most are of the phthalate variety). These early plasticizers were new, novel & I would suggest more experimental in their earlier days of production/usage. Today's plasticizers are remarkably different than those employed 50 - 60 years ago. Some things are simply a product of their times, in this case very early experimental usage with a large learning curve.

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Old Oct 31, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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And I always thought that was PVC.
Old Oct 31, 2021 | 08:56 AM
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And I always thought that was PVC.
LMAO. Good catch, Kenneth. 😉
Old Nov 3, 2021 | 07:28 PM
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So is the general consensus to just leave it be?
Old Nov 3, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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Get some labels printed & apply them so people don't start picking at it.



Old Nov 3, 2021 | 10:57 PM
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If you are really concerned about it you could fill the crack with an epoxy filler colored to match. Honestly wouldn't be that hard to do.
Old Nov 4, 2021 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 72455
So is the general consensus to just leave it be?
Not easy, it can be repaired, but the dash pad would need to be removed. You can plastic weld from the back side, then fill the outer side and try to match the grain and color of the repair surface and/or repaint the whole dash pad.
Old Nov 7, 2021 | 11:49 AM
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You most likely didn't appreciate my humor (or lack thereof), but I'd leave it as-is. Nothing wrong with demonstrating a little character for a 50 year old classic, Dave.
Old Nov 7, 2021 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
You most likely didn't appreciate my humor (or lack thereof), but I'd leave it as-is. Nothing wrong with demonstrating a little character for a 50 year old classic, Dave.
No worries Norm...I got what you were saying. I'm good with leaving it as is, and going forward I'll do what I can to help prevent further issues 😀
Old Nov 8, 2021 | 05:00 AM
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The crack can be repaired but it's no small undertaking. Here are some older threads:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...repair-143071/

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...repair-153270/

The dash in my 71 98 has a single crack in front of the steering wheel. I've wanted to buy a cover for the dash or repair it but I've never gotten around to it. Lately, my 96 98 is taking all of my time.
Old Nov 8, 2021 | 07:37 AM
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Always have a dash mat on these old cars when out in the sun.
Old Nov 13, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Burd
Always have a dash mat on these old cars when out in the sun.
That's exactly what I did..😀




Old Nov 13, 2021 | 01:47 PM
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That was a easy fix, but I would try to dye it green to match your dash.
Old Nov 13, 2021 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bfg
That was a easy fix, but I would try to dye it green to match your dash.
I thought about that, but I have a black console and black floor mats,, so I'm good,, but thanks.
Old Nov 13, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Noticed this crack in my dash on my '72 Supreme today. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good way to repair it. I really don't wanna replace the dash pad, so any help would be appreciated. It's on the passenger side about 5 inches in from the edge.
once cracked it is almost impossible to fix and blend into the non-cracked area to look 100% original.

but if you want to try, ask these people

https://www.vinylpro.com/


Old Nov 15, 2021 | 11:10 PM
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I'm 74 now and been doing Olds cars all my life and never saw one crack. But I always have a dash cover for that reason.
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