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Old Oct 31, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Wtf???

This is allegedly a J88, has a 394, Slim Jim, and a Starfire console. Says it's in "very nice original condition".

http://www.americanclassiccarsales.c..._259318328.veh
Old Oct 31, 2015 | 04:18 PM
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I dont know...wtf?...looks like a nice car?
Old Oct 31, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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X2, you cant build one for the price.
Old Oct 31, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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It does look like a nice car but it's nowhere near original. I had a 64 J88, it had a 330 and 2 spd jetaway.
Old Oct 31, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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that is not a 64 console.63 yes and i have to say i have never seen ashtrays in the door armrests.that is a "wtf"
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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Clearly the car is NOT a 1964 J88. Most likely scenario is that the car was either hit in the front end or had rusty fenders and the replacement nose was from a J88. They won't provide the VIN unless you give them your phone number, but obviously the VIN will tell what it really is.
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 09:37 AM
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How's this?
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 09:48 AM
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Well, the second digit being a "3" shows the car as a J88...

Either the VIN tag has been swapped also, or somebody put a lot of work into swapping the 394/Slim Jim in place of the 330/Jetaway. It would be interesting to find out if the car has 4.75" or 5" wheel bolt circle and whether or not it has the 9.3" axle or the 8.2" axle. One would need to look carefully at the frame to see if it has the mounting tabs for the 330 (which are unique to the J88 frame) or if it is another full size frame that got swapped.
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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well now back in the late 80's i bought a 64 j88 4 dr.the reason i bought it was no 1.it had a perfect back bumper for my 64 starfire conv.AND no 2.it had a 394 as mine was locked up from setting for 15 yrs.
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cherokeepeople
well now back in the late 80's i bought a 64 j88 4 dr.the reason i bought it was no 1.it had a perfect back bumper for my 64 starfire conv.AND no 2.it had a 394 as mine was locked up from setting for 15 yrs.
One more time:

The ONLY engine ever factory installed in the 1964 Jetstar 88 was the 330, period.
Old Nov 1, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Well, the second digit being a "3" shows the car as a J88...

Either the VIN tag has been swapped also, or somebody put a lot of work into swapping the 394/Slim Jim in place of the 330/Jetaway. It would be interesting to find out if the car has 4.75" or 5" wheel bolt circle and whether or not it has the 9.3" axle or the 8.2" axle. One would need to look carefully at the frame to see if it has the mounting tabs for the 330 (which are unique to the J88 frame) or if it is another full size frame that got swapped.

Can you tell by the pics? They show the rear and one motor mount. I did own a J88 years back but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what's what.

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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Vern H
Can you tell by the pics? They show the rear and one motor mount. I did own a J88 years back but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what's what.
Ah, I didn't look at all the photos before.

All I can say is HOLY $H!T.

This car has been seriously frankensteined. It clearly has the VIN from a 1964 J88. The rear axle is the 9.3 used in the "except J88" models. The engine and trans are also obviously not J88 factory-issue. The frame APPEARS to have the mounting tabs for the Jetaway trans crossmember used on the J88, as shown below, but it also has the bolted-in trans crossmember for the bellhousing mounts on the SlimJim. i can't find a photo of the area where the J88 motor mount tabs would be, so I can't tell about that. The VIN tag does not appear to have been swapped. This is clearly the illegitimate spawn of a J88 and another full size Olds. Purchase at your own risk.

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