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Old Sep 3, 2022 | 08:46 AM
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High pressure oil pump?

It there any advantage to installing a high pressure vs high volume oil pump? My engine builder said high volume could starve engine of oil with stock 5 quart oil pan?

Does anyone produce a high pressure pump?

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Chad

Old Sep 3, 2022 | 08:52 AM
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Olds performance products has this one...not sure if anyone has used it:

https://oldsperformanceproducts.com/...i-performance/
Old Sep 3, 2022 | 11:13 AM
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My engine builder said high volume could starve engine of oil with stock 5 quart oil pan...
Chad,

On Oldsmobiles, the thing that can possible starve the pan is if oil released by the lifters holds up under the valve covers. Oil released in other locations will drain immediately to the pan.

The high-volume pump has the same pressure relief valve setting as the standard pump. There's no extra pressure to force release of extra oil. If the system pressure tries to fall it will maintain the standard pressure and standard release in each location. For example, at idle, where the pressure is generally lowest, the high-volume pump would maintain pressure better. But the volume of oil released will not exceed a standard release rate. At higher engine revs, the pressure relief valve opens to dump the extra oil directly back to the pan--no extra pressure would build.

A high-pressure pump will cause extra oil to be released everywhere, including under the valve covers, which could then starve the pan.

Trust your logic.

Gary
Old Sep 3, 2022 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rippinbyu
It there any advantage to installing a high pressure vs high volume oil pump? My engine builder said high volume could starve engine of oil with stock 5 quart oil pan?

Does anyone produce a high pressure pump?


Thanks,
Chad
Damn, those rumors will never die. I have a Melling high volume oil pump and it does NOT starve the engine oil.

Old Sep 3, 2022 | 05:27 PM
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Damn, those rumors will never die. I have a Melling high volume oil pump and it does NOT starve the engine oil.
Correct. For those who still want to believe the internet crap, block off the drainbacks in the heads and pour 2qts of oil in each valve cover. Then look to see what that actually looks like. Let us know your findings.
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 02:12 PM
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Chad,

On Oldsmobiles, the thing that can possible starve the pan is if oil released by the lifters holds up under the valve covers. Oil released in other locations will drain immediately to the pan.

The high-volume pump has the same pressure relief valve setting as the standard pump. There's no extra pressure to force release of extra oil. If the system pressure tries to fall it will maintain the standard pressure and standard release in each location. For example, at idle, where the pressure is generally lowest, the high-volume pump would maintain pressure better. But the volume of oil released will not exceed a standard release rate. At higher engine revs, the pressure relief valve opens to dump the extra oil directly back to the pan--no extra pressure would build.

A high-pressure pump will cause extra oil to be released everywhere, including under the valve covers, which could then starve the pan.

Trust your logic.

Gary
Thank you for the info Gary...any pumps you'd recommend for the Olds? I saw guy above mentioned Melling...they all built the same?
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 02:23 PM
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You are welcome, Chad.

Yes, Melling is a reputable manufacturer. I have their pump in my Olds. I've not heard about problems with that pump.

Gary
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 02:38 PM
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I also replaced my original OEM oil pump w/ a Melling four years ago. Very satisfied w/ its performance.
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 05:53 PM
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You are welcome, Chad.

Yes, Melling is a reputable manufacturer. I have their pump in my Olds. I've not heard about problems with that pump.

Gary
Thanks!
Out of curiosity....what RPM is your motor turning at 65 MPH with .5 overdrive?
I saw the lowest the Tremec TKX is .68 which would mean 2259 RPM with 3.91s and 25.7" tires
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 06:12 PM
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You are welcome, Chad.

Yes, Melling is a reputable manufacturer. I have their pump in my Olds. I've not heard about problems with that pump.

Gary
Thry had some issues with the machining of the gears, very poor finish. Hopefully that’s been fixed.
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 06:44 PM
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...what RPM is your motor turning at 65 MPH with .5 overdrive?
1630 rpm with 746 revs per mile tires (275/60-15)
Old Sep 4, 2022 | 08:18 PM
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1630 rpm with 746 revs per mile tires (275/60-15)
Thats awesome!!! What kind of gas mileage on the freeway?
Old Sep 5, 2022 | 05:45 PM
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Damn, those rumors will never die. I have a Melling high volume oil pump and it does NOT starve the engine oil.
Do the two valve covers even have enough volume to starve the engine if completely full with oil?
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