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Old July 21st, 2014, 05:34 PM
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Have you guys looking for early Olds parts seen this or am I late to the party?.... Tedd
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"68" Special Model

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Hi ti the group. I am restoring a 1947 4 door. I am not sure which model it is, maybe you guys can help. I either need to repair rust on the bottom of the drivers side rear door or find a mint condition door if anyone has any leads.
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With an eight cylinder engine and the body no. 47-3519 my parts book says it is a "68" Special most likely made in California. A four door 78 Dynamic would be 47-3609 body code. All of this information is in the 1948 Master Chassis Parts Book published by the Oldsmobile Division. Reprints are available from time to time on EBay or from Faxon Auto Literature.
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Hi and welcome to the thread.

Originally Posted by fastdrive
Hi all,

just found this thread. I own a 1946 convertible. It is a ´66´ model in seafoam green.

I bought it in 1992 and it is still far away from being drivable :-(
The floorboards are in very bad shape.

Don't know much about its history. I bought it in AL and it came with old tags from 1982 where it seems it was in some cheap local 'competition'.

The restoration back then was cheap but cool (in my own opinion). Why cool? Because they basically tackered red leather on top of all the original red cloth and didn't ruin the original pieces...

And no doubt - lovin' it ...
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That's three of us now, if I remember correctly, on this thread that have 46-48 convertibles.
Fastdrive, 47 Convertible (me), and Manuel from Argentina. I just returned from a few days road trip in my 36 Chevy so missed replying right away. Stay with the thread. A bunch of good people, good information and help. A lot to read in the thread already re. 46-48 and we do fudge a bit up to 49 and back to 41 as I recall. If no one else mentioned it, we do like pictures. hint, hint.
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Hello there,

well, now it´s four of us!!!

I have something in common with fastdrive: we also purchased our 1948 Dynamic 66 Convertible in 1992 and start now to take it apart for a frame-up-restauration.

Therefore I will Need to replace a lot of floor panels. Is there any source or do I have to reproduce all myself???

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Another Convertible!

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well, now it´s four of us!!!

I have something in common with fastdrive: we also purchased our 1948 Dynamic 66 Convertible in 1992 and start now to take it apart for a frame-up-restauration.

Therefore I will Need to replace a lot of floor panels. Is there any source or do I have to reproduce all myself???

Kind regards from Heidelberg / Germany
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Peter, Welcome. It is nice to have another convertible project on the thread. As far as I know no one makes floor panels specifically for our 46-48 Oldsmobiles.
EMS automotive makes them specifically for Ford and Chevrolet but the possible good news is that our 60 series Oldsmobiles have a lot in common with Chevrolet and EMS makes floor and trunk panels for 48 Chevrolets. http://emsautomotive.com/index.php?r...ory&path=20_61

You should look at their selection and then make careful measurements in inches (not metric, sorry) of your corresponding floor areas and then contact them to see if the Chevy panels are the same size. They are sometimes slow to respond. Other than that hand fabricating is the best option.

Later on if you need convertible parts you will find the top latches, for example, are available through Chevs of the 40s in Vancouver, Washington USA. They are the same for 60 series Oldsmobiles and Chevrolets.

Some of the hydraulics might be available from the same source but all are very expensive if you want to go with true reproduction. I chose to redo my hydraulics with aftermarket pump and cylinders which worked out quite well from Hydroelectric. There are ads on ebay for their products or you can contact directly. I think they are in Florida. I also have a contact in Pennsylvania who made the wood pieces for the top. He has my patterns and when you are ready I can furnish his contact information.

Please stay in touch through this thread and let us know about progress on your project.
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Glad to have you with us Peter,

If you need new fender pads for your tail lights Jerry and I have funded a source for making these. You will not find them available anywhere else. Some parts for these fine cars are not reproduced and you have to fabricate them yourself.

Please post some pictures of you project soon.

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Hey guys,

thanks for the warm welcome!!!

I´ll try to post some pics of the car right now.
Actually the previous owner did sandblast the trunk 1992 inside. He probably decided to sell the car, after he saw all the holes...
Fortunately it did not rost any further since then.

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Hey Pat

thanks for the offer.
I would assume this are the rubber gaskets between tail light and Fender sheet metal?
When I was in New Haven in 1992 I spend a lot of time to organize lots of spare parts. All kinds of rupper parts, even new cylinders for the soft top and a after market pump for it.
Currently I do not remember all the Details, so please forgive me to postpone this issue. Currently my thoughts are at this stage more in sheet metals, redoing the engine, the Transmission and so on.

Regards from the beautiful Heidelberg
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Hey guys,
I am looking for appropriate literature for my project.
What can you recommend to purchase?
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Literature to help restoration

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I am looking for appropriate literature for my project.
What can you recommend to purchase?
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Peter, I strongly recommend "The 1948 Oldsmobile Master Chassis Parts Book" and the 16th Edition of the "Hollander Interchange Manual."

You should become familiar with the Egge company which is probably the best source for engine parts for obsolete engines like our Oldsmobiles. They can even cast pistons and make other engine parts if need be. An internet search will give you their contact information.

I find the Interchange Manual valuable as it allows you to find identical parts used on other models and makes that will fit your Oldsmobile. Unfortunately it doesn't cover some of the smaller parts. I've had mine since 2001 and use it several times a month.

The Master Chassis Parts book can be purchased from Faxon Auto Literature or is sometimes advertised in ebay. The Hollander Interchange Manual used to be reproduced but I think has been discontinued. I found one on the Internet (ebay) for Manuel in Argentina after looking for only a few days. Hollander still publishes Interchange Manuals and I think has a later version that covers 'classic' cars. Both these companies can be located through a search on the Internet.
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OK, The "Hollander" I just purchased in ebay.
About the "1948 Oldsmobile Master Chassis Parts Book",
the book in the pic seems to be the the right one, right?
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well, I simply purchased this one as well.
Thanks Jerry!!!
It will take some time until I will get them to Germany from my friend in Memphis though.
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Those are the books

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well, I simply purchased this one as well.
Thanks Jerry!!!
It will take some time until I will get them to Germany from my friend in Memphis though.
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Very good Peter. I'm always dumbfounded at how many people start off on a restoration or modifiying without the benefit of pertinent literature. I think of the books as another tool in my shop. Even professional mechanics have them on hand.
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Sounds like we're few and far between! I have a 48 Olds 78 4-door and want to keep it as original. Most of the rest throw a 455 in it, which is cool, but I like the original car as it was then. My big problem is how to rewire a 6 volt system. I usually only work on 12 volt systems with positive ground. This is throwing me a curve ball.
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If you are ever looking for a 1948 Olds L-8 257 Cube engine I have a friend who has one for sale at a reasonable price-in good condition.
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Who has a 12V + Ground?

[QUOTE=roberer; I usually only work on 12 volt systems with positive ground. This is throwing me a curve ball.[/QUOTE]

Are you working on British Iron? I believe some Morris and MGs had 12V+ ground but can't think of anything US unless maybe industrial equipment. and prior to going to 12V that Fords used to be + ground.

I know some believe the ground should be + instead of - and there apparently are/were some good reasons in theory at least but I can't remember them. Even though I grew up in a family with a number of electricians I somehow missed out on getting the electric gene.
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Hey guys,

in the meantime I managed to purchase the following literature and I´m looking forward to get it to Germany.
By the way: how do you refer to an earlier post (above in the box)?


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Books for your old Olds

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Good. That's very smart. You can't have too many reference and how-to books for our old cars.
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Originally Posted by Karo201
Hey guys,

in the meantime I managed to purchase the following literature and I´m looking forward to get it to Germany.
By the way: how do you refer to an earlier post (above in the box)?


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Just hit the Quote box at the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote, it will take you to the reply box with the quote installed, make your reply below that....Tedd
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Originally Posted by Tedd Thompson
Just hit the Quote box at the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote, it will take you to the reply box with the quote installed, make your reply below that....Tedd

Thanks Tedd! Sometimes things are soooo easy!!
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Need starter button for 47

Anyone not using the stock starter button and happens to have it available?
I'm looking for one. Plastic housing cracked on my original. PM me with price.
I know there are a couple listed on ebay but I'd rather not pay the amount they are asking.
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Recently inherited a 1947 78 Series.




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Recently inherited a 1947 78 Series.



That is a nice looking '47. Have you had it long enough to know what you are going to do with it? Send us some more pictures and details. Always fun to look and learn about other cars.
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Hurt'in Albertan, I'm sorry for the circumstances you have received this gift...A great looking car with fantastic lines, your benefactor must have had very good taste... I hope that you appreciate and enjoy it the way it was intended.....Beautiful....

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Thanks for compliments on the car, I can't take any credit for the build. Yes although it's a great car I'd rather still have my brother in law around. This was his first car and he's had it for over forty years. Needs a power polish and some interior touch ups but it's pretty cool.

Short video of when I pulled it out of the garage.

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Originally Posted by rookie101
Recently inherited a 1947 78 Series.
Sweet ride!

I got my new toy home yesterday, It's a 48 Dynamic 76 all stock even the 6 volt. Well except the 57 Cadillac caps....


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Thanks for compliments on the car, I can't take any credit for the build. Yes although it's a great car I'd rather still have my brother in law around. This was his first car and he's had it for over forty years. Needs a power polish and some interior touch ups but it's pretty cool.

Short video of when I pulled it out of the garage.

http://youtu.be/PbAGb3I6kIg
Ok, Sounds sweet now tells us what the power plant is
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Ok, Sounds sweet now tells us what the power plant is
455 with a Tri Power set up on it.
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Originally Posted by rookie101
455 with a Tri Power set up on it.
Thanks for video clip. We are real pigs for pictures. More pictures please incl. engine compartment, interior etc.
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ps. A question for restorers among us. Did these 46-47 Oldsmobiles come from factory with fender welting on rear fenders? (mine was in pieces when it came to me so no way for me to know) My projects always seem to come in a basket.
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Jerry,

Yes they did come with the welting on the rear fenders.

That 455 sounded healthy
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Happy to be here!

I am the happy owner of a 1948 Oldsmobile 76 4-door. I have been trying to find parts to bring her back to as close to original as I can. She is my driver! I call her Blue. She looks candy coated and I to can't walk by her and not smile! I'm now known as "The Cool Aunt"! All the kiddies just love to go to the beach or just for a cruise with Ali and Blue!
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Question I need a gas tank

The fuel cell in my 48 olds is to deep. its 10 inches and I have to be careful on dips. I am trying to find the specs on the original tank so I can replace this one. Anybody know them?
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The fuel cell in my 48 olds is to deep. its 10 inches and I have to be careful on dips. I am trying to find the specs on the original tank so I can replace this one. Anybody know them?
Hi Ali and welcome to CO and the 46-48 thread of Vintage Olds forum. You will find the greatest car people on CO and in this thread and lots of knowledge and good advice.

Tanks Inc. www.tanksinc.com/ supplied a new tank for my 47 Olds Model 66. At that time about 4 years ago, they did not make a tank specific to Oldsmobile but they suggested a Buick tank of the same vintage with the fuel inlet about half-way between front and rear of the tank. It worked out fine. I got the straps that hold up the tank and the filler tube. You will also need the hangers that the straps attach to if they are not still on your car. You will need to make/buy some kind of rubber strip to fit between the straps and the tank to prevent rubbing and you should have some kind of rubber/rubber-like pad to fit between the bottom of the trunk floor and the gas tank. They can advise you on that.
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I'll start a new thread -- but thought it might help to list them here, too -- I just unearthed six (6) N.O.S. ++ O E M G M ++ 1942 - 1951 OLDS Rear Brake Drums
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Any idea if these numbers identify the skirts as 60 or 70 series?
The driver's side has: 419531 and the passenger side has: 419530 Thanks, Al
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Any idea if these numbers identify the skirts as 60 or 70 series?
The driver's side has: 419531 and the passenger side has: 419530 Thanks, Al
Hi Al,
Neither of those numbers show up in my 1948 Master Chassis Parts Book as being fender panels (skirts)
42-48 60 series 416388 RH, 416389 LH
42-48 70 series 416392 RH, 416393 LH
46-47 98 series 418646 RH, 418647 LH
1941 96 & 98 series 419532 RH, 415349 LH

That RH 1941 skirt for 90 series is the only number I could find that started with 419
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ps, its possible number changed somewhere during or after production or that those might be 1949 or 50 numbers. My book only goes to 1948
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rear axle width 46-48 Series 60?

Anybody have that data or can get it? I'm needing to know width at face of hub with drums mounted. Thanks for any help.

The optional follow up question is: If you are running large tires on a stock rear end what is the maximum width of wheel and size of tire that will fit between frame and fender without any tubbing?
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I've used this link for some of that type of data http://www.classiccardatabase.com/sp...46&model=27636

I can measure mine (1946 66 special) tonight and post the measurement, if that helps.
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measure rear end width

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I've used this link for some of that type of data http://www.classiccardatabase.com/sp...46&model=27636

I can measure mine (1946 66 special) tonight and post the measurement, if that helps.
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That would be very helpful to have the measure from outside of hub where wheel mounts to same point on other side.

If that is not convenient I could use backing plate to backing plate plus a measure of the thickness of the hub and get close enough.

I see the link has something called 'tread width' and says its 61.5 in. but I don't know what the reference point for tread width is, i.e., center of tread on tire, outside edge etc.
Thanks a lot for your offer of help,
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