59 Hydra matic lost 3rd and 4th gear.
59 Hydra matic lost 3rd and 4th gear.
Hi there,
I have looked through the forum the best I can and came across a post from December 2020 that almost fits my issue but not quite.
I have looked at the trouble shooting guide in the manual but nothing suits my issue there either.
(Loss of gears 3 and 4.
My 59 Ninety Eight has run its Hydra Matic through both the original and new engine with no issues.
last week I removed the inlet manifold to do some work. All went great all back together and runs great. Test run around the block no issues however when I left the driveway in 1st and it went into (I think), 2nd, I heard a very loud racket from under the car. To me it sounded like a few small bits off solid steel attached to a string being dragged under the car for about 2 seconds. Got out nothing left behind and no oil.
I took it for a long run on the freeway. It would not get out of second. Sometimes going from 1st to 2nd got stuck so I took the foot off accelerator then back on again and then it changed but No third or fourth when in Drive.
Changed the gears manually I started off in L this was fine and when revs were up I changed manually in S. I could hear and feel it go up a gear as revs went down and built back up again. Then I manually changed into D there were no more upgearing.
So, to me only 1st and 2nd gear exist.
I checked to ensure I have not displaced the T.V lever when I did the manifold work I think its good.
Any help appreciated.
Thank you.
I have looked through the forum the best I can and came across a post from December 2020 that almost fits my issue but not quite.
I have looked at the trouble shooting guide in the manual but nothing suits my issue there either.
(Loss of gears 3 and 4.
My 59 Ninety Eight has run its Hydra Matic through both the original and new engine with no issues.
last week I removed the inlet manifold to do some work. All went great all back together and runs great. Test run around the block no issues however when I left the driveway in 1st and it went into (I think), 2nd, I heard a very loud racket from under the car. To me it sounded like a few small bits off solid steel attached to a string being dragged under the car for about 2 seconds. Got out nothing left behind and no oil.
I took it for a long run on the freeway. It would not get out of second. Sometimes going from 1st to 2nd got stuck so I took the foot off accelerator then back on again and then it changed but No third or fourth when in Drive.
Changed the gears manually I started off in L this was fine and when revs were up I changed manually in S. I could hear and feel it go up a gear as revs went down and built back up again. Then I manually changed into D there were no more upgearing.
So, to me only 1st and 2nd gear exist.
I checked to ensure I have not displaced the T.V lever when I did the manifold work I think its good.
Any help appreciated.
Thank you.
Did you remove the linkage support bracket when you removed the manifold? I'm sure you were careful not to disturb anything but I know on mine some of the settings are .020 of an inch on the adjustments so something slightly changed could throw it off.
That's the shift selector rod. If park and reverse are functioning that's probably ok. I was talking about the TV rod that runs from the carburetor to transmission. The one that controls shift points and downshifts.
Your 59 shop book should have diagnostic charts in the transmission section. See if there's one describing "loss of 3d and 4th" or "no 2-3 upshift", or something similar.
Reach out to Charlie Jones, coldwar or d2willys. They understand fluid coupling HydraMatics.
Your 59 shop book should have diagnostic charts in the transmission section. See if there's one describing "loss of 3d and 4th" or "no 2-3 upshift", or something similar.
Reach out to Charlie Jones, coldwar or d2willys. They understand fluid coupling HydraMatics.
Thank you.
Try starting out in S range. It should shift 2 times, then stay in 3rd gear. If it gets to 3rd and drives ok, then the clutch is good. If it goes into a "no drive mode " then either the 3-4 clutch is not engaging. The clutch could be worn out, or the clutch hydraulics is defective. This could happen if the governor is defective. The governor is not hard to replace on this. It is in the extension housing where the protrusion is at. Passenger rear of the housing.
Well,
Haven’t been doing anything since the last post re this issue, so just going to drop the transmission pan this weekend and see if there are any ‘bits’ in there to see if anything there. If not will be tackling the suggestions provided here.
Thanks.
Haven’t been doing anything since the last post re this issue, so just going to drop the transmission pan this weekend and see if there are any ‘bits’ in there to see if anything there. If not will be tackling the suggestions provided here.
Thanks.
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