Trying to replace my pump to carb line, filter inlet is frozen to line and threads. Ordered a replacement line from Fusick. Isn’t fitting. Carb is stock pump is a 40704. Angles don’t work:


sorry about the angle, is correct on phone.
Anyone run into this? This is a AC car, but manual shows no difference in pump or line. Any other source of these?
if not might attempt to twist it to fit, or have line made.
Thanks.

 

I rotated the image for you. This issue comes up more often than you might think. I replaced mine from Inline Tube a couple years ago - didn't line up correctly. I improvised by cutting out a center section ~3" - 4" of the metal fuel line (I had just purchased) & inserting a piece of rubber fuel line w/ appropriate clamps. Personally, I wouldn't worry about an exact fit - you'll gain the flexibility you need to assemble the fuel line with a center section of rubber fuel line. Your call, of course.

 

It looks to me that the bends are not completely finished for it to line up correctly. This has been a problem with many vendors of this particular fuel line, some are worse than others.

 

I don't think that your replacement fuel pump has the correct stock angled fitting.

 

IMO that one is too far off to get it dialed in. Depending on where you are have the old one copied at a hydraulic shop, buy the longest piece you can at an auto store then cut and bend it yourself or at a local repair shop. The longest piece will help if you kink it and need to start over.

Although it may take two or three tries, bending and flaring isn't difficult. Some of the bends at the end near the fitting will be the most difficult due to the short length.

I prefer not to have rubber hose on the pressure side between the pump and carb...just my $0.02.

Good luck!!!

 

Pump appears stock. Has the screw in fitting shown in the csm at the correct angle.
Do not want to use anything but steel. Any feedback on Inline Tube products other than Chief? Or any other vendors?

 

i got mine from inline as well, it was very close but i also have a performer intake i was able to easily get it to line up YMMV

i just looked i dont have a pic of mine handy If i remember ill snap a pic tomorrow.

 

As described in post 4, the line you bought is designed for a different pump.

If you can't make the line you have fit (personally, I think you can twist the end at the pump and increase the angle at the oil fill tube), your choices are to buy the correct pump for the line or buy/ make the correct line for your current pump. The problem with buying a line is that you may well end up with what you currently have. It is not hard to make your own line as described in post #5. I agree with you that I don't like rubber from the pump to the carb as I personally know a few guys whose cars burnt to the ground from a rubber fuel line failing (granted they were running rubber the whole way from the pump to the carb but still). That said, in 71 the W30 line set had steel lines connected to an inline filter with short sections of rubber.

 

I think Fusick sources their parts from inline tube. Same dang SOCC6802 part number.
Not surprised but sure limits our options.

 

Supercars Unlimited pump to carb fit my car quite nicely with stock V belts. Unfortunately it would not work with the serpentine brackets, so I bent a 3/8" by 18" long Nickel Copper line, which worked Ok.

 

Thanks I’ll call supercars and see where they source theirs. Pretty sure sure my pump is correct 40704. Has the proper adapter at 45 degrees shown in the csm


Going to order another, keep which ever is s closer to correct, and have it bent if possible. Have a tube shop near me that used for lines in the past, hopefully they can get me close.

 

Yeah mine looks like the others too and the line fits well. Do they list other PNs?

if you have a place nearby that can bend one up maybe make a good template w a wire coat hangar and bring it to thrm to bend up?

 

From your photo the part sent looks like its closer to yours than mine. Note how your pump outlet comes straight out, mine is facing the pulleys.
They do have different numbers for the 455 like yours compared to the 350 4 bbl. Enough folks have had issues that something is messed up.
Leaning towards making my own.

 

I bought my fuel line from Inline Tube also , as you can see in the above picture It did not fit
I just re-bent it as carefully as I could to prevent kinking it and it fit fine just be patient and take your time and you can make it fit.
As long as you have the proper parts you will be fine
Good Luck

 

Sorry I just looked at your picture again and noticed that your Pump fitting is at a different angle
you will probably need to get a different pump to work with that line, will still need to adjust it though.

 

Greybeards outlet appears to match the 350 configuration shown inhis manual. The outlet connect is at the 10 o clock position and the pump outlet is 45* from parallel to the engine.

the rest of ours shows the pump outlet parallel to the engine but the outlet connect points 45* away from the block

I dont think thats the best terminology but its obvious now how its different.

i think theres a fuel pump sticky somewhere, might be easier to replace the pump now w one that has a more common outlet, if it fails down the road youll be revisiting a mismatched fuel line again i suspect.

 

The difference in the angle of the fitting on the fuel pump is a year thing. I think 68/69 are like greybeards and the other one shown is 70+. My 68 455 has the pump like greybeard shows and the fuel line I purchased from inline for a 68/69 455 fit perfect. I did connect it to the carb first then I bolted the carb to the manifold.

 

Supercars Unlimited has different lines, for specific years. They even sell the 45 degree fitting separate.

 

Have you contacted the boys at Fusick? I have found them to be helpful.
I had what I thought was the OEM PW steering HP hose on my 68 when I restored that system. I called them said the one I removed doesn't look like the one you sent. My car was /is very close to numbers matching.
They confirmed. Sure enough, when I checked closer they were right. And I'm the one who changed it 35-40 years ago.

 

I talked to Mike at Fusick. Good guys, no real answer. Going to try another line, different number. Whichever is closest I will try to bend.

 

I've never had good luck with pre-bent pump to carb hard lines from the big name houses. They've all been off. I've also had them tell me my car was wrong and their part(s) were correct even though the car matched the CSM. I prefer to use stainless when I change these out so they need to be extremely close to work. Very little/no 'massaging' with stainless. The plain steel allows for quite a bit of 'tweaking' but the original one purchased you show is clearly wrong on the pump side. I have a '69 350 and it also uses the brass 'adaptor' which gets clocked at the pump. The line then goes into this adaptor.
I've had very good luck with Inline's main competitor, Classic Tube, located in upstate NY. I've used the coat hanger trick mentioned above to make several templates for them and they've made me excellent stainless lines that have always fit. They don't charge extra for a custom line. Very reasonable. I'd recommend going this route if you're unable to make your own.

 

For future reference the Classic Tube line was much closer, had to make a few slight bends to get it to fit.
The old line was extremely tight at the pump, and have not been able to get it off the filter housing at all, even using a vise and vise grips.
Glad I ordered a spare housing, spring and gaskets.
I have been needing to prime the carb for a quick start recently despite the accelerator pump appearing to prime properly. After changing the line I still had fuel pump when I worked the throttle twice, and she started right up, even with the empty line from the pump. Don’t know if I had low pressure or what. The old filter was dirty and somehow bent.

 

Just a tip. When fighting with these lines, and they're close, try threading the line into the pump and also into the carb, without bolting the carb to the manifold. This will allow you some leverage to bend the line until the carb bolts line up with the holes in the manifold.