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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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1916 Olds 7 passenger V8 Big Touring car. First year for the V8 Olds.

1916 Oldsmobile big 7 passenger V8 Touring car for sale. Original unrestored condition. Was stored in a barn for over 80 years until I bought it over 10 years ago. I never found the time to do anything with the car. I thought it would be nice to first offer the car here on our Olds site before I send it to one of the auction houses. Looking for fair solid offers. If you are familiar with early Oldsmobiles you will have an idea on what the car could be worth.

$20k
Old Oct 3, 2017 | 12:08 PM
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I moved your thread to the Classifieds as the info forums are not for selling items. Please post an asking price as per forum rules.
Old Oct 3, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Very cool car Herbie. GLWS. Looks to be a solid project.
Old Oct 3, 2017 | 02:04 PM
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A world away from the stuff I toy with but so cool. Neat to see a V8 under the hood. Best of luck. What kinda dough are you looking for? Al
Old Oct 14, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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And so the asking price is?
Old Oct 14, 2017 | 09:40 PM
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What the car COULD be worth and what it IS worth could a great amount. How much do you think you have to have?
Old Oct 15, 2017 | 07:34 AM
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Perfect candidate for a 455 transplant!
Old Oct 15, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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As at least one data point, the most recent issue of the Old Cars Price Guide that covers the 1916 model year is the January/February 2017 issue. There were two series offered by Olds that year, the Model 43 with a 4-cylinder engine and the Model 44 with a V-8. The Model 44 came in four body styles, 2-door roadster, a 2-door cabriolet, a 4-door touring car, and a 4-door sedan. The V-8 was 246 cubic inches, L-head, rated at 40 hp.

The value shown for a Model 44 touring car in #5 condition (non-running but restorable and too good to be a parts car) is about $7,000. Get it up to showroom condition, and the value is about $43,000. How much you would spend to get it to that condition is anyone's guess.
Old Oct 15, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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Very Kool find, 100 plus years old......that was a very long time ago!
Old Oct 15, 2017 | 06:01 PM
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Wow that would be so cool to leave original and get running/driving they are only original once.
Old Oct 16, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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Wow that would be so cool to leave original and get running/driving they are only original once.
Exactly. Anyone taking out the original powertrain and putting a 455 in deserves 10,000 wedgies.
Old Oct 16, 2017 | 09:27 PM
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There was a 1917 Olds V-8 at the OCA nats in Albuquerque.
Just to give you an idea of what it might look like restored .







Old Oct 17, 2017 | 06:24 AM
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No price has been posted!
Old Oct 17, 2017 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
No price has been posted!
Ed, post #1, $20K.
Old Oct 17, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
The value shown for a Model 44 touring car in #5 condition (non-running but restorable and too good to be a parts car) is about $7,000. Get it up to showroom condition, and the value is about $43,000. How much you would spend to get it to that condition is anyone's guess.
Looking at the pics of this one, I would guess probably at least 6 months at 40 hours a week would be around 960 to 1000 hours. Multiply this times a shop rate from a top quality shop (est $100 hr) and you get into some large sums pretty fast. A lot more than the car would be estimated to be worth after restoration.
Old Oct 17, 2017 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
Looking at the pics of this one, I would guess probably at least 6 months at 40 hours a week would be around 960 to 1000 hours. Multiply this times a shop rate from a top quality shop (est $100 hr) and you get into some large sums pretty fast. A lot more than the car would be estimated to be worth after restoration.
You would really have to love this car , and the hobby itself . To do this .
And you sure wouldn't want to pay a "king's ransom" for it in the first place .
Old Oct 18, 2017 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
As at least one data point, the most recent issue of the Old Cars Price Guide that covers the 1916 model year is the January/February 2017 issue. There were two series offered by Olds that year, the Model 43 with a 4-cylinder engine and the Model 44 with a V-8. The Model 44 came in four body styles, 2-door roadster, a 2-door cabriolet, a 4-door touring car, and a 4-door sedan. The V-8 was 246 cubic inches, L-head, rated at 40 hp.

The value shown for a Model 44 touring car in #5 condition (non-running but restorable and too good to be a parts car) is about $7,000. Get it up to showroom condition, and the value is about $43,000. How much you would spend to get it to that condition is anyone's guess.
Well guys, you really don't go by Old Car Price Guides or Kelly Blue Book for a 100 year old car. There are not many, if any original examples like this left. It's not like you can shop around and compare a number of other examples. I was going to take it to the RM Hershey auction in 2007 because the big 1911 Olds Limited was going to be auctioned off. However, I could not get the car out of the building in time. Well, that 11 Olds in about the same condition sold for 1.6 million dollars. Now, I understand that was a very different car, however, if I had the car there, RM would have run it down the line right after the Limited sold and they stated the car would have brought really big money due to all the excitement from the 1.6 mil sale. Collectors would have jumped on this car thinking and hoping it's value would also explode. Again, I know they are different cars, however, I'm not selling this car for pennies on the dollar. You are not going to find another one this original. It was in storage since the 1920's. It could make a great HPOF car. It does not have to be restored. Never mind book values on cars that are rare and very old as there are really very few, if any around to compare to. Trust me on this one.

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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 07:56 AM
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Repost the pictures of your car if you don't mind. Sometimes rarity does not equate to value, these vintage cars have a small pool of buyers. If I thought it would bring that kind of money it would have been at the next auction.
Old Oct 18, 2017 | 11:03 AM
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I was going to take it to the RM Hershey auction in 2007 because the big 1911 Olds Limited was going to be auctioned off. However, I could not get the car out of the building in time. if I had the car there, RM would have run it down the line right after the Limited sold and they stated the car would have brought really big money due to all the excitement from the 1.6 mil sale.

Coulda woulda shoulda? No doubt for stupid $$$. There will be another auction.
Make it run and get it to Amelia Isle. I think you need an invite though. Good luck, like they say there's an *** for every seat. Maybe it will be full of cash too.
Old Oct 18, 2017 | 04:02 PM
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Coulda woulda shoulda? No doubt for stupid $$$. There will be another auction.
Make it run and get it to Amelia Isle. I think you need an invite though. Good luck, like they say there's an *** for every seat. Maybe it will be full of cash too. [/QUOTE]
I hear ya. I do show some of my restored cars at Amelia Island each year, along with Pebble Beach and all the other concours events. If someone pays a million for this car, we are all going to have a very big party ok?
Old Oct 18, 2017 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbie
Coulda woulda shoulda? No doubt for stupid $$$. There will be another auction.
Make it run and get it to Amelia Isle. I think you need an invite though. Good luck, like they say there's an *** for every seat. Maybe it will be full of cash too.
I hear ya. I do show some of my restored cars at Amelia Island each year, along with Pebble Beach and all the other concours events. If someone pays a million for this car, we are all going to have a very big party ok? [/QUOTE]

Old Oct 18, 2017 | 07:02 PM
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That Olds Limited that was auctioned is a very special car that won the transcontinental race. It is a one of one car. Maybe you can get Wayne Carinni on "Chasing Classic Cars" to buy this as a barn find and take it to Amelia. He took the very rare 1921 Stutz Bearcat and won a special award. Never found out if he sold it or not.

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Old Oct 20, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
That Olds Limited that was auctioned is a very special car that won the transcontinental race. It is a one of one car. Maybe you can get Wayne Carinni on "Chasing Classic Cars" to buy this as a barn find and take it to Amelia. He took the very rare 1921 Stutz Bearcat and won a special award. Never found out if he sold it or not.
No it's not a 1 of 1 car. They made over 700 Limited models between 1910 and 1912. That 11 Limited Touring was 1 of 159 made that year and at least a dozen Limiteds are still left today. Transcontinental race? The car was not run for 70+ years until just a few years ago. It's in no condition to race anything. I think you are talking about another Limited. The blue and red speedster maybe?
Old Oct 20, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Herbie
No it's not a 1 of 1 car. They made over 700 Limited models between 1910 and 1912. That 11 Limited Touring was 1 of 159 made that year and at least a dozen Limiteds are still left today. Transcontinental race? The car was not run for 70+ years until just a few years ago. It's in no condition to race anything. I think you are talking about another Limited. The blue and red speedster maybe?
Did not say there were no more than 1 Olds Limited made. What I said was this car was supposed to be the one that won the transcontinental race back in the early 1900's. Said to have not been run in over 70 years is probably true.
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