Summit shows $1,025 per head with a June 07th ship date

 

There you go but I’m not sure I’d believe the June ship date. Just sayin.

 

Do you think the Edelbrock version, out of the box, is safe to run? Or does one have to check or replace the retainers, valvesprings, valve guide clearance, keepers, rocker studs, etc?

I remember hearing the valve guides can be too tight and more clearance has to be machined in. Also that the retainers & keepers are low grade steel and not chrome moly. Hate to drop a valve on a new engine

 

All I can say is that these two sets checked out fine, didn’t need anything.

 

Maybe just replace the retainers & keepers with some chrome moly or titanium pieces as the Edelbrock only use stamped steel pieces which if they fail, would be catastrophic.

 

Agreed on replacement of the mediocre components....

I also wouldn't trust the valves included with more than 170-180lbs of spring pressure on the seat and not much higher than 6,000 rpm without some proof of material composition and manufacturer.... but that is just me and my $.02

 

Who told you that, Velcro?
I’m really not sure where you guys get some of this info but do you realize how many sets of heads they sell to the avg Joe, who then just bolts them on and goes, WITH NO ISSUES? They have a warranty, do you think they’re going to continue to sell an inferior product and have to warranty the repair of it? Are you kidding me?
Batteneunner- how many engines have you built? How many aftermarket heads have you had come across your bench that you’ve actually had your hands on, unassembled? My bet is not many of either. The reality is they put out a good product right out of the box. Could someone improve them? Of course they could. But for 90% of the applications they’ll be bolted to they’re just fine. Does it say anywhere in the Edelbrock description that these heads are good for mech tappet applications? Cuz that’s what 170-180 on the seat is approaching. If you’re going to race with them and need higher spring pressures etc., then guess what, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE PIECES ACCORDINGLY. Christ almighty.

 

whoa, no need for attacks or rudeness.

I didn’t say they were junk.

I said mediocre. Mediocre as in they are minimal quality for an average build and nothing wrong with that. I have had a valve break before that was mediocre quality and it ruined the whole engine, and always makes me think that spending a few hundred more $$$ is better than another several thousand $$$$.

I have been around more aftermarket heads/ parts and high horsepower builds than you know, I just don’t tell everyone on the Internet about all that my friends and I have done.

I am still positive that these new heads will be a good thing for Olds engines.

 

So are they mediocre, which is below average, or are they ok?
Man I get so tired of Internet bull shyt.

 

If it makes you feel better, I think they are probably ok for most people.

How does that make you feel?

:-)


I sure hope you have a nice day and things start looking up.

Stay positive!

 

I just think it’s interesting how you and others can assess a cyl head and it’s components when you’re thousands miles away from one that’s all.
You have a nice day as well, for real.
Thank you.

 

Is there a PDF available from Edelbrock on the specs for the new heads coming out?

What material are the valves made out of?

 

Wouldn't you think that Edelbrock would have that information ? Have you tried their site ?

 

That’s a great statement for everyone and one of my pet peaves.
Call or email the manufacturer, no matter what it is. Trying to ask a question like this on the internet just leads to bad info and subjects you to what someone “thinks” is the right answer.

 

Searched on the Edelbrock website but could not locate any such information. Maybe they haven't released it yet?

 

They haven't been, late summer.

 

Not trying to hijack the thread but your signature lists a Performer RPM Air Gap but it also says 350. I can not find any data on an Air Gap 350 manifold. Does Edelbrock make a Performer RPM Air Gap manifold for the small block olds?

 

Nope, a buddy and I cut it up and welded a tray underneath. It’s a true air-gap but we did it ourselves, about 12 years ago even.

 

Awesome!!

 

Everything is out of stock.

 

What do you mean? The new heads have already sold out?

 

The heads Mark is talking about are "expected" sometime this year. They were never in stock.

 

Edelbrock's moving out of CA really stopped production of everything. I had ordered a BBO intake from Jegs, and it kept getting pushed back, farther and farther.....now expecting (maybe) end of summer....

 

Any updates on the production/shipping? Is it still mid June?

 

My understanding was that only the headquarters was relocating.
Production facilities were to remain in place. I remember thinking
it was too good to be true, please tell me they aren't headed to China.

 

Geez, for the last time they’ve been owned by the same company as Comp since 2010.
They moved the Torrence hdqrs to Olive Branch MS, combined the machine shop and foundry and streamlined operations overall in a quest to be more competitive with China.. They’re not GOING to China.

 

Thanks for catching me up.

Owen

 

But, BUT...

It's WAAAAY easier to just speculate and write posts about it instead of, you know, actually taking less time to look up the facts first.

 

^^^^

 

can you google that 4 me joe lol.

 

Maybe for the BB Heads, but I specifically asked about the SB heads and they said Aug.

 

I guess you see what you want to see. I see the word "hoping", thus meaning they don't actually know.




....still

 

Everybody take a breath. Geeze, every business in the country has supply chain problems right now. It took me a couple of months just to get repro rocker panels for my squarebody truck from AMD, and these have to be one of the highest volume repro panels sold.

 

Exactly why I am spending more for Molnar rods because they are better and Mark has them in stock. Same goes for a roller cam, Mark has a mild one in stock. The machine shop I am dealing with has been waiting 6 months for camshafts. Hopefully the Mahle pistons Skyhigh and Myself are waiting for are being made as we speak. Everything is on back order, stupid Pandemic.

 

A buddy went to Buffalo Wild Wings for lunch today and they were out of wings. So what if the freaking heads are not available yet,there's more important **** right now,like wings.

 

I hope they still had beer?

 

Well, I called and was told late fall at the earliest on the SBO heads.
So, roll the car back into the corner with nose up(engine out) and cover it till 2022.
Sleep well, 2022 it will be either 350 olds if Edel blesses the foundry with molds. or it will be ls time.

 

I assume the big block heads would be available EARLIER than the small block heads?

 

LS time? sure that's what you need to do before you develop heart problems.

 

The LS is definitely a tempting choice. I understand keeping it an "Olds" power train but if you want superior reliability, ease of tuning, great HP/torque, great MPG, ease of parts access, and affordability, the LS1-3 engine is a bulletproof choice.

This is one of the nicest LS swaps into an Olds I've seen: