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Old Dec 14, 2021 | 04:13 PM
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Console part needed

Looking for this piece of the console that the lid mounts to. Must have a good hinge mounting area but the color isn't important. Saddle would be preferred but I have other parts to dye anyway. This is a 72.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 05:10 PM
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The hinge mounts tot he lid and the main console body. That upper area is not the main console body. it is only a piece of metal wrapped around the main body. You will need to modify and fix the one you have or find a complete console because nobody will sell a good body without it being a complete console. If you take it apart and get creative, you will see that you can bolt the hinge on a broken body without drilling holes all the way through
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
The hinge mounts tot he lid and the main console body. That upper area is not the main console body. it is only a piece of metal wrapped around the main body. You will need to modify and fix the one you have or find a complete console because nobody will sell a good body without it being a complete console. If you take it apart and get creative, you will see that you can bolt the hinge on a broken body without drilling holes all the way through
Unfortunately it's already been drilled. Surely someone out there has a broken console with a good upper portion they'd be willing to sell.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 06:51 PM
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Unfortunately it's already been drilled. Surely someone out there has a broken console with a good upper portion they'd be willing to sell.
H&H Classic Auto sells a console hinge repair kit, if that is why you are looking for the piece (you did say though that holes were drilled all the way through it?). I have not seen that hinge repair kit, so no idea if it is any good. H&H does sell restored consoles, so I suspect it may be a useful repair kit.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 07:08 PM
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H&H Classic Auto sells a console hinge repair kit, if that is why you are looking for the piece (you did say though that holes were drilled all the way through it?). I have not seen that hinge repair kit, so no idea if it is any good. H&H does sell restored consoles, so I suspect it may be a useful repair kit.
Yep, drilled through and bolted the hinge on. Most people will never see it but now that I have I can't un-see it. I want it correct.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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Many years ado 70Post (Patton Glade) published a hinge repair tutorial on the forum. If you want a copy, I recently converted it to a pdf and can send it to you.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
Many years ado 70Post (Patton Glade) published a hinge repair tutorial on the forum. If you want a copy, I recently converted it to a pdf and can send it to you.
That would be handy but like I said, someone drilled through the console.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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Maybe do the hinge repair, then fill the holes and paint to cover them.
Old Dec 14, 2021 | 07:53 PM
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Maybe do the hinge repair, then fill the holes and paint to cover them.
If you would be so kind as to share the repair that might be an option. Thank you.
Old Dec 15, 2021 | 07:00 AM
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I have the metal piece that could help you. Maybe this along with the hinge repair kit will work. Let me know if you are interested.




Old Dec 15, 2021 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GN1220
If you would be so kind as to share the repair that might be an option. Thank you.
I searched around and realized I had posted this before. Here's the post from 2014:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-advice-85196/

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Heres a couple pics...of an unbroken console.

The blue tape points to the areas where I drill holes in the outer PLASTIC WALL of the upper console. NOTE:On this upper part of the console the outer surface that you actually see (when the console is installed in the car) is vinyl covered metal....the plastic I drill into is BEHIND or UNDERNEATH this vinyl-clad metal. SO--you only want to drill the new holes in this approx 3/16 thick upper console plastic area AND NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE METAL---otherwise you'll have holes showing on the outside The blue tape is stuck to the "approx 3/16" thick plastic" that I mention above.



The grey pointer tip in the pic above is pointing to the piece that broke off of your console with the hinge attached....when you have remounted the hinge to the OUTER PLASTIC you can just glue this strip back into place to hide your repairs. You will probably need to clearance the backside of this snapped off strip so it will clear the heads of the screws that will be used.

After you have finished the repair you can glue or otherwise attach your original mounting screws into the 3 holes on the piece that the grey pointer is touching....that way when you look at it, it will look like the original mounting screws are still in place.


Using a drill : I don't know how much mechanical experience you have so just drill SLOW----drills aren't made for trying to break RPM World Records. Naturally, a variable speed drill is the way to go since you can keep it at LOW RPMs. You will probably have to drill at a slight upwards angle also unless you have some fancy right angle drill.


The pic below just shows the same thing...the idea is to hide the screws/new holes in the outer plastic down inside this channel. NOTE: You can see the vinyl-clad metal--the backside of it in the pics--it is the white metal with little rust spots showing through the clearance holes in the outer plastic...shown in three areas in the pics. Also--the gold part you see in the pic (where the hole for the console door latch is removed)is the vinyl/clad metal....the textured gold surface.






Finally--use 4 #8 x 3/8 SHEET METAL SCREWS to attach the hinge to the OUTER PLASTIC WALL- Paint the heads of these flat black so they won't be so visible once they are installed.




You will need to select a drill bit SMALLER than the #8 screw---then SLOWLY use the screw to cut the threads into to now-drilled outer plastic. GO SLOW!!!! screw it in a little and back it out....DON'T JUST screw it in one motion--you may stress and crack the outer plastic.

BEFORE DRILLING THE OUTER PLASTIC: You need to set your hinge in this area and mark it so you can drill new holes into the hinge. They need to generally correspond to the areas where the blue tape is pointing.

Take your time and find some patience....don't hammer on the drill and punch through or ding the outer vinyl-clad metal.
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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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That would be handy but like I said, someone drilled through the console.
I used the method 70post suggested and it worked well. It's relatively easy to fix those holes with JB Weld. You can scribe the rough finish into the JB Weld while it's still pliable, lightly sand it and paint it and you'd never know holes were drilled into it.
Old Dec 15, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tdhill01
I have the metal piece that could help you. Maybe this along with the hinge repair kit will work. Let me know if you are interested.



Let me know how much you are asking for it shipped to 64114. Depending on price I might try to fix the one I have since it seems rather straightforward and it needs to be dyed anyway.
Old Dec 15, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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Yours for free just pay the shipping. Let me box it up and get you a price from USPS.
Old Dec 15, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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Hey, keep me in mind if GN1220 doesn’t want it. I need to fix a similar issue with my console lid.
Old Dec 15, 2021 | 09:43 PM
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Let me know how much you are asking for it shipped to 64114. Depending on price I might try to fix the one I have since it seems rather straightforward and it needs to be dyed anyway.
A MUCH BETTER choice...you'll never be able to repair the holes in the vinyl-covered metal outer piece to the point where the repair is undetectable. The very thin vinyl covering has a grain to it but the covering is thin. Any sanding/blending of JBWeld, etc used to fill the holes will likely scratch the surrounding thin vinyl. Plus....it'll probably "bug" you forever (or your passenger once you point it out ).

Graining/texturing epoxy to give it the appearance of a grained vinyl or plastic is a TEDIOUS venture and again, it will still likely be visible. Also....if you try to load up the vinyl-covered metal piece with paint/dye to help hide the repair spots you'll only succeed in filling in the texture/grain on the covering.

Nice early Christmas present offer from "tdhill01"! Saves you a lot of headaches there.
Old Dec 16, 2021 | 05:17 AM
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Yours for free just pay the shipping. Let me box it up and get you a price from USPS.
You guys are too kind. Please let me know the cost and where to send the money. Thank you!
Old Dec 16, 2021 | 05:19 AM
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Hey, keep me in mind if GN1220 doesn’t want it. I need to fix a similar issue with my console lid.

I will.
Old Dec 16, 2021 | 07:55 AM
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You guys are too kind. Please let me know the cost and where to send the money. Thank you!

Cost to ship out of USPS:

xpress - 48.95
priority - 12.70
ground - 12.50

Let me know which way and I can accept PayPal, venmo, money order or personal check.

Old Dec 16, 2021 | 02:44 PM
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Cost to ship out of USPS:

xpress - 48.95
priority - 12.70
ground - 12.50

Let me know which way and I can accept PayPal, venmo, money order or personal check.
Priority is just fine. I can send paypal tomorrow if that works. Just tell me where to send it.
Old Dec 16, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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Priority is just fine. I can send paypal tomorrow if that works. Just tell me where to send it.

Sending pm
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