ppg omni paint for code 28 twilight blue

Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:07 AM
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ppg omni paint for code 28 twilight blue

Hello guys ,gals.
My 71 cutlass is almost ready for paint .The painter wants to "jamb it" and says the 1970 code 28 twilight blue metallic is only available in the "Omni"
line of paint from ppg. He says they only use waterbased paints nowadays.
It will be base / clear . Thoughts?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:02 AM
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Any color can be made in any system. That does not mean that manufacturer has a formula for that code though. While the environ-mental regulations vary from state to state here I don't know if solvent-borne is legal in your area. That is code 28 on my avatar and I matched it to the trunk jamb above the taillight. You might find your local paint supply and go there. You can find out about the local laws and could look through their color library to get the closest color to original as possible. If there is not a formula for the code you are looking for you can go that route and may end up with a closer color anyway. Manufacturers don't typically archive formulas and what you may end up with is a color that is "close" but after spraying may be embarrassingly far off.
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What brddg says is correct. It can be made in any paint line, either by a formula, camera or a crossover which probably will need some tinting adjustment to be perfect. Waterborne is national rule in Canada since 2010. That is the reason your painter will be using it. As far as match, probably will be much more brilliant in water as the aluminum flake is coated to prevent oxidation in water. Color will be much prettier than factory....
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It's blue

My 71 was finally clear coated yesterday. Will try and post some pics of the process soon.Omni paint from ppg was the choice in code 28 twilight blue. ok, gotta figure out how to resize photos.
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Nothing wrong with Omni base/ clear.
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I used the Omni 3.5 VOC system on my car two weeks ago. I had to get this old italian dude to make me a special mix to match the factory bamboo colour.
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Here's photo proof.

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did you wet sand before clear coats?[ATTACH]039 (Small).JPG[/ATTACH]
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Old September 10th, 2013, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1971cutlas View Post
did you wet sand before clear coats?[ATTACH]Attachment 75471[/ATTACH]
The paint shop told me to clearcoat 45 minutes after your last coat of colour so that they blend nicely.

he couldn't have been more right, the clear hid all the spots that were shoddy.
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wet sand

Sorry ,I meant between the clear coats. My painter did this, and he says
becomes smoother(less orange peel) won't require buff and polish later???
We'll see. !!
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Originally Posted by 1971cutlas View Post
Sorry ,I meant between the clear coats. My painter did this, and he says
becomes smoother(less orange peel) won't require buff and polish later???
We'll see. !!
I'm impatient so i did it all at the same time

Mind you, i'm not a painter, i'm no professional by any means. And i do drive this car like a hero. So chances are my paint will get rock chips and sometimes even rocker chicks all over it.

I swear, i painted my car grandpa beige, you shoulda seen it attract ladies on saturday night
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baby comes home on birthday. 09/11

Gotta say its a great day when your baby comes home,especially on your birthday!!I feel like a kid in a candy store!!
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really having trouble with pics,resized to 1024/768, still no go !!

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If you have an iphone send them as "large" it'll auto-resize them to what they should be for this site. works like a charm.
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OK boys. finally figured out to size em . LOOK OUT!!
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Body and paint

Some more pics .
This is Paulo ,the body and prepman for this whole shop.!!
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Anyone who wears exactly ZERO PPE (personal protective equipment), would not touch my car....sorry... If he could give 2 sh$ts about his health, why would he care about his work......1970 was 4 and a half decades ago!
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workplace safety

Yeah, I hear you on the workplace safety concerns .I have my WHIMS(WORKPLACE HAZARDOUS INFORMATION SYSTEM ) certificate, which we are obligated to have here in Canada , when we work with these environments and chemicals .
I was actually the one who took the pics, and had just block sanded the panels on my car(to save $$$), with a mask on of course!!.
If it matters it was a nice breezy summer day and the shop (big door was opened) when he was priming those panels.
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That pick is much better! Car looks good too!
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same color I used on my car
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I am mechanically inclined , not so much in auto body, .Was on holiday last week of august, needs to find fender for r side.Got one (Brian Trick).
Decided to go down to the body shop to bolt it up and the frt end.
Got that done,and asked if there was anything I can do to help..They gave me a block sander and sandpaper and had me go at it.3 days of that!!!
I really have an appreciation for the auto body trade now. HARD WORK
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Erik, what options do you recommend for code 28 Twilight blue in the USA. Can I get it in other brands. I am not sure what brand my painter uses yet.
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Originally Posted by brddg View Post
Any color can be made in any system. That does not mean that manufacturer has a formula for that code though. While the environ-mental regulations vary from state to state here I don't know if solvent-borne is legal in your area. That is code 28 on my avatar and I matched it to the trunk jamb above the taillight. You might find your local paint supply and go there. You can find out about the local laws and could look through their color library to get the closest color to original as possible. If there is not a formula for the code you are looking for you can go that route and may end up with a closer color anyway. Manufacturers don't typically archive formulas and what you may end up with is a color that is "close" but after spraying may be embarrassingly far off.
This is so true as far back as the early 80's we did not use Euro paint line on factory colors from the 60'sand 70's.Most of the time because they did not have the exact color match for domestic cars, and to get the color right on the shops inter mix was costly and flawed.

Car looks nice paint is 90% prep 10% application unless it is a bend repair or custom work.

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euro gold hs clear coat

FYI my car has Omni 3.5voc base , and this eurogold clear coat,
honestly, looks waxy and shiny , but I like it!!
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How are you going to cut-buff?
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FYI my car has Omni 3.5voc base , and this eurogold clear coat,
honestly, looks waxy and shiny , but I like it!!
How many coats of clear?

NICE
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clear coats

3 coats of clear over a weekend.buffed inbetween coats.Honestly,i don't think i have to buff and cut.It's pretty nice,couple dirt freckles here and there.Carlos started painting cars at the ripe old age of 17 at a Renault factory in Europe. He's now 56.Cost me a bit for paintjob ,but then again everything seems expensive these days.

Tony ,pass by again any time and see it,bring your 72 this time.
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