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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Sorry, not meant to be sarcastic at all. I just think you think out of the box at times and I admire that. Maybe it's that I've never been a numbers matching guy and I like new ideas. No sarcasm intended.
hey i really appreciate the compliment!, im all about making things work with readily available parts, for example when i put the efi 302 and 5 speed in my 77 ford, i had to fab up some clutch linkage, to make a long story short, the master cylinder pushrod consisted of '94 ford, '84 ford, and 00 s10 parts. but it all went together as planned and worked.

which brings me to my next idea, i have all the rear disc brake parts off of a 2000 chevy blazer, if i have the money and time to spend, ill try to find a way to make them work on my 9 inch once its in, the caliper brackets share the same bolt pattern as the backing plate brackets my 10 bolt had, so when i ordered bearing ends from moser, i ordered the gm pattern so i can just put my brakes right back on. we will see if it ends up being drum or disc in the end.

people find it interesting when i tell them im building a 74 omega with a 68 toronado 455, with 97 pontiac firebird transmission, and a rear end out of a 77 ford pickup, haha
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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I also ordered my fiberglass bumper, should be here in a week or two, for all you omega guys... all 2 of you.. haha, if you want any fiberglass parts for your omega, call these guys http://www.glasstek.com
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Found this efi Intake setup on evilbay, I think its a pretty good deal, thought about buying one and slowly working my way to a multi port c.o.p. 455, anyone have any thoughts on the price? http://www.ebay.com/itm/200848180033...84.m1438.l2649
Old Jan 26, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Price looks great if you compare to just 1000 cfm throttle bodies.
However I know nothing about that brand. Maybe PM Cutlassefi?
Old Jan 26, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Price looks great if you compare to just 1000 cfm throttle bodies.
However I know nothing about that brand. Maybe PM Cutlassefi?
i should do that and see what he says! also on another note, i found bowtie overdrive in california, they specialize in transmission stuff for classic chebbies, but they had a great price on a crossmember, so i just ordered one from them, should be here in a few days id imagine
Old Jan 27, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Jeremiah
Found this efi Intake setup on evilbay, I think its a pretty good deal, thought about buying one and slowly working my way to a multi port c.o.p. 455, anyone have any thoughts on the price? http://www.ebay.com/itm/200848180033...84.m1438.l2649
Uses late model GM Throttle Positioning Sensor ??
What else dose it need?
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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I'm putting a NV3500 in My Omega do you think they'd have a cross member for that?
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Railguy
Uses late model GM Throttle Positioning Sensor ??
What else dose it need?
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Well i know itll need a wiring harness and everything, and injectors, but its not a bad deal for a intake setup

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I'm putting a NV3500 in My Omega do you think they'd have a cross member for that?
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I doubt it, but why are you going with a nv3500, isnt that like a truck transmission? would you be better off with like a WCT5 or something?
Old Jan 30, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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heres my idea for a bushing, mcloud 8617, its for like a 409 chevy to go from a turbo glide to a 4 speed. has a steel sleeve on the outside it looks like, and a standard bronze bushing in the middle, my crank was about 1.705 and this should be about 1.709 on the outside, gotta measure at work, could probably freeze the bushing and heat the crank and make them go together permanantly, then just tap out the bronze bushing and replace it when i do the clutch every once in awhile
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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There's nothing wrong with what your doing.I plane on doing the same thing but if I had the motor out was planing on rebuilding it I'd drill the crank and do it the right way.A little less weight on the crank never hurts.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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There's nothing wrong with what your doing.I plane on doing the same thing but if I had the motor out was planing on rebuilding it I'd drill the crank and do it the right way.A little less weight on the crank never hurts.
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I might have the crank drilled since im gonna tear the 455 down to install the 425 rods im getting from bill, but I dont NEED to because this setup im running makes the input about 1/2 too short, so if i do drill it, i just have to run an extended bushing, ill start by seeing how this works out, i really like this heavy duty steel bushing with the bronze bushing inside, looks like you press the steel bushing into the crank and just change the bronze bushing afterward!
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 06:26 AM
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I noticed on my 350 olds to NV3500 that the splines on the input shaft would be very close to being in the way.So I plane on making room for it.I would like to use a stock roller bearing pressed in to to a brass "holder".Do you know if the brass would expand to much.Also I'm going to use a hydraulic clutch let me what you plane on using.As far as lines and such.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Railguy
I noticed on my 350 olds to NV3500 that the splines on the input shaft would be very close to being in the way.So I plane on making room for it.I would like to use a stock roller bearing pressed in to to a brass "holder".Do you know if the brass would expand to much.Also I'm going to use a hydraulic clutch let me what you plane on using.As far as lines and such.
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Well first off, I dont like the roller bearings, they tend to come apart and destroy the nipple on the input shaft, I like bronze for that reason.

Secondly, I wouldnt put it in a bronze sleeze ( you said brass, but im pretty sure you meant bronze, because brass is about as strong as butter ) If your wanting to go that route, I would have a machinist make a sleeve that fits in the inner diameter of the crank, and necks it down to the diameter you need. shouldnt cost much, I have had lots of reman engines come into the shop built that way for manual trans applications.

So basically, that picture I showed above would be what you want, except a roller bearing in the middle if you so chose.

I have to do the math still on the clutch setup to see whats most economical, but I am using a 97 firebird clutch master cylinder, these guys make a bracket to mount it to the firewall of the camaro/nova

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...rod/prd212.htm

Im most likely gonna use this slave cylinder riding against a lakewood heavy duty clutch fork, unless I find its cheaper to go with one of those 200 dollar internal slaves
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Push-T...nder,1944.html

Speedway motors also offers fittings to put into the master and slave cylinder to change them to AN fittings, and they have stainless clutch lines
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/T56-Hy...nch,32575.html

Let me tell you. lots of nights on the pc doin research!

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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Well Im very excited to say I have a 74 gto and shaker scoop on the way from olympia for the omega, oh I cant wait to get this car done, i know its a pontiac scoop, and not olds, but they are very rare, and will look unique because lets be honest, whens the last time you saw a 74 gto? yup.
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well im very excited to say i have a 74 gto and shaker scoop on the way from olympia for the omega, oh i cant wait to get this car done, i know its a pontiac scoop, and not olds, but they are very rare, and will look unique because lets be honest, whens the last time you saw a 74 gto? Yup.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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ok, everyone except for you! haha, but thats exactly my point, I finally, after months of searching, found a complete setup, actually, it found me, I left an ad on CL saying, if anyone had a complete setup id buy it. Lots of guys were emailing me wanting tons of money, some guy called me today and said he had everything for half of what everyone else wanted, and that he was in olympia, well my boss just happens to be in olympia, so he just stopped by and picked everything up for me. Itll take a little work to the nose piece to make it look right, but ill make it happen. it was one of those things, I couldnt afford not to buy it, just to have it!
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Live like you want to live! I love the idea!
BTW Use to see one about 3 miles from my place. lol

More pics!
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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I havent touched the car all week, waiting for parts to get here. Ill upload the pics the guy sent me of the hood, I havent even seen it yet, my boss picked everything up since he happened to be in the same area as the guy!
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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It was such a blessing when this guy emailed me, I have been looking for this setup since I bought the car, and found out they existed lol. I was about to head to BC and spend 800, this just worked out so much better!

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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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anyone have enough skills with photoshop to make a sherwood green omega with this scoop on it? i want to see how it will look!
Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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You coming to the Corvette swap meet?
http://www.thefair.com/events-calend...967a9b294aeb56
Old Feb 1, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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You coming to the Corvette swap meet?
http://www.thefair.com/events-calend...967a9b294aeb56
Not sure, I went last year, I dont remember if I found anything I needed, but I do remember seeing some oldsmobile stuff. I might go. what about you?
Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Transmission lines right up with the floor support that runs across the floor about 6 inches behind the stock shifter location, anyone have any great idea for making that work? haha ill have some pics soon
Old Feb 13, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Well gent's I dont have much for you this time, but here's my fancy new welder, I built the bottom half of the welding cart, it mainly consists of my jeep's front bumper, it only cost me $25 bucks in materials. Not like it matters though, Im running the welder to moses lake this evening for warranty work (fan doesnt kick on)

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Heres where the transmission hits up front, subframe still needs to go up about 1.5inches or so

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couldnt get a good picture of the back, but I can draw what I think needs to be done
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Wish I would have found this thread along time ago. I could have helped, but I still might be able to help. I am parting out my BBO Omega. Did you get new A-arms yet? I will sell mine to you and they have Global West Del-u-lum bushings with offset cross shafts and new Ball joints. Keep at it. You will love it! Oh, the 468 is for sale as well.
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Wish I would have found this thread along time ago. I could have helped, but I still might be able to help. I am parting out my BBO Omega. Did you get new A-arms yet? I will sell mine to you and they have Global West Del-u-lum bushings with offset cross shafts and new Ball joints. Keep at it. You will love it! Oh, the 468 is for sale as well.
I didnt realize you were on this site, I saw your build awhile back on car domain, thats how I figured out what to do about my exhaust / steering situation!

I did get lower control arms, which I would like to retain for cost efficiency, however I am in the market for Upper control arms, let me know what we can work out!
Old Feb 15, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by analogkid455
Wish I would have found this thread along time ago. I could have helped, but I still might be able to help. I am parting out my BBO Omega. Did you get new A-arms yet? I will sell mine to you and they have Global West Del-u-lum bushings with offset cross shafts and new Ball joints. Keep at it. You will love it! Oh, the 468 is for sale as well.
i should actually specify, im looking for tubulars, are your tubular? regardless, ill pm you
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got this back today, just getting the trailer hooked up to the jeep was a story in itself... however, here is the old 10 bolt rear end, and the ford 9 inch cut down 2" narrower overall, with GM bearing ends welded on. need a pumpkin, and leaf springs, and ill be good to go.

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New guy with a BBO Omega

Here are a few pictures of my car. 1973 Omega in and earlier build. New BTR 468 going together now.
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Wow that is beautiful! If I had that kind of coin, I would pick up a BTR engine as well. What kind of headers did you use to fit around the stock steering box? Also, how did you get rid of all your chrome around your window on the sides of the car? I have some of the chrome off, but the pillars have little notches cut out of them! dang that thing is sweet!
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Just a small update, no pics yet. Got my welder back after having some warranty work done to it, should be cutting up the floor this weekend and welding it all back up. I ordered my leaf springs today from calvert racing.

I am going to use disc brakes off the back of a 2000 chevy blazer on the 9", its going to take a little machine work, but Ill make it work.

Now I just need to decide If I should go buy this 66 toronado I saw on CL for 900 bucks running and driving :S
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I had my headers built at a local shop [2" primaries x 3 1/2" collectors] when I still had stock heads on the car. The RR/Wenzler heads move the headers up and out, causing some frame clearance issues. ad to cut a small notch and box it in.
Old Feb 24, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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I had my headers built at a local shop [2" primaries x 3 1/2" collectors] when I still had stock heads on the car. The RR/Wenzler heads move the headers up and out, causing some frame clearance issues. ad to cut a small notch and box it in.
Thats not good to hear, I would really like to install RR headers at some point, even just the procomp heads would be nice. Just something to help drop some weight off the front. by the time you have aluminum heads, intake, w/p and pulleys, im sure your about the same weight as an iron 350.
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got another small update, had to cut the floor where the front floor brace is, so i made this picture frame deal real quick. shows you how it should look when done.

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heres the hard part, i had to redo the trans tunnel in this spot, this type of work isnt my specialty... well i havent had much practice anyway. but once i get it all welded and ground down, it will look a lot better.

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also on another note, i have calvert racing leaf springs in my front room!
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It'll get covered with carpet anyway.
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this is the green, is this dark green a factory color, which code? thanks guys!

Green has always been a favorite color of mine too ... my vote is for the dark green!
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 11:52 PM
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axles are on the way, leaf springs are in the car.

got a couple more pictures of the floor coming together.

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Last 2 pics? whatcya doin there?
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gusseting in the square piece I made to the floor support. each side is different because the shifter is offset to one side. does that make sense? i dont know how to explain it haha



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