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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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hey guys,

well after being a chevy ss guy for most of my life i thought it was time for me to class it up a little. just purchased a 70 olds 442 pace car{hoping its the real deal} and will be asking lots of newb questions for you rocket heads. see ya on the boards. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!
charlie,,,,
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Nice to have you aboard Pictures please
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Look for Y74 stamped into the body data plate. These cars came in both Cutlass and 442 versions but all real ones will have the Y74.
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Welcome to the site Charlie! Yes, please post some pictures when you have time. John
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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will post some pics hopefully next week. car needs to be transported from florida to illinois {anyone know of a car transport company that has good rates?} cowl tag reads...
st 70-34467, assy plant lan, body 409403, trim 970a, paint 10a, build date 4a, acc code y74, vin 344670m*******.
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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It all checks out. Lansing built, Y74, 4A date code.

Body plate:
3= Oldsmobile Division GMC
44= 442
67= Fisher code for convertible
LAN 409403= Lansing MI Fisher body assembly
970= black vinyl Strato-Bucket seats (not sure about the A; it may mean console. I'll defer to Kurt here- where's he been anyway?)
10= Porcelain White paint; A= white convertible top
4A= built 1st week April (the Pace Cars were built a couple months before the 500 to ensure having them available for the Festival)
Y74= Indy Pace Car package

VIN:
34467= see above
0= 1970
M= Lansing MI final assembly

Like Chevrolet, Oldsmobile did not indicate the factory engine installation in the VIN until 1972, but 1970 442 should have an F block 455. Look between the intake and water pump for the F. If car is W30 it will have an aluminum intake and F heads (look at lower left corner of heads for a letter about 1" tall). I think some 1970 442 Pace Cars came with the more common E heads and cast-iron intake, but I am admittedly more knowledgeable about the 1974 Pace Car program than 1970.

To check engine numbers, there is a machined pad on the LEFT FRONT SIDE of the engine, just below the cylinder head, that has a VIN derivative stamped into it. Should read 30M****** (last 6 digits of your VIN).

Someone (and I can't remember who) had the VIN list of all the actual 1970 Festival cars- the ones that were used at the track that year.
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
It all checks out. Lansing built, Y74, 4A date code.

Body plate:
3= Oldsmobile Division GMC
44= 442
67= Fisher code for convertible
LAN 409403= Lansing MI Fisher body assembly
970= black vinyl Strato-Bucket seats (not sure about the A; it may mean console. I'll defer to Kurt here- where's he been anyway?)
10= Porcelain White paint; A= white convertible top
4A= built 1st week April (the Pace Cars were built a couple months before the 500 to ensure having them available for the Festival)
Y74= Indy Pace Car package

VIN:
34467= see above
0= 1970
M= Lansing MI final assembly

Like Chevrolet, Oldsmobile did not indicate the factory engine installation in the VIN until 1972, but 1970 442 should have an F block 455. Look between the intake and water pump for the F. If car is W30 it will have an aluminum intake and F heads (look at lower left corner of heads for a letter about 1" tall). I think some 1970 442 Pace Cars came with the more common E heads and cast-iron intake, but I am admittedly more knowledgeable about the 1974 Pace Car program than 1970.

To check engine numbers, there is a machined pad on the LEFT FRONT SIDE of the engine, just below the cylinder head, that has a VIN derivative stamped into it. Should read 30M****** (last 6 digits of your VIN).

Someone (and I can't remember who) had the VIN list of all the actual 1970 Festival cars- the ones that were used at the track that year.
rocketraider, thank you very much for the breakdown!{whew}. and thanks to you other guys for the welcome and info also! will check on engine # as soon as i get car delivered. i am guesing it is not original engine but who knows. if you do remember who had the list of original festival cars that would be great. HAPPY THANKSGIVING
CHARLIE,,,
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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