OOPS! lol, I had thought about that under the car but didn't think there was enough room on that side. I had not looked at the manual yet. Thanks for looking it up for me. I just jumped on WAC and looked at it.

 

Too bad all assembly problems aren't as easy to address.

I'm interested in what color you decided is appropriate for the radiator support mounts.

Thanks.

 

As far as I know the core support bushings were black.

 

Thanks. I noticed the Assembly Manual Section 11, page 142, calls them out as green. I'm wondering if anyone's seen any evidence of this.

 

Factory flaw

The back console mount was not welded in the proper place on this car. The console was the only interior part that was ever removed from the interior before I got it so I never knew how it fit. Tonight I have been test fitting and crossing over to the Dual Gate setup. (I know, It is not original). Well after getting the shifter mounted in the correct spot then the one mount hole in the rear bracket lined up perfect with the left console mounting hole. That makes me know I have the shifter in the correct spot. I believe I have it all correct now and ready for final assembly when this comes back around.

On the right side of the bracket you can see the thread marks where the factory missed the bracket but hit the side.

 

Been there done that. 67 442 I wondered why the console didn't fit well.

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3 possibilities for the QC error on the bracket:


1. Monday build


2. Friday build


3. UAW - Management disagreement


#3 is when the UAW folks instruct the line workers to deliberately sabotage cars to get a line stoppage and a concession that they want.

 

Or they were instructed to build it that way in order to not stop the line.

Or it could have been rejected and sent to repair where someone ordered the car built like that.

If something didnt fit in final assembly the cars were still built out and whatever was rejected was repaired after the car left the line. A car would not be tore down because a bracket was misaligned when welded to the floor.

Note the cars parked to the side for repair. And the 64 Tempest has no back seat, passenger seat or package try.

 

Ok, I'm confused. Isn't there different makes in this plant?

 

I was playing with the camera tonight and got a little better picture of the color.

I installed the passenger door tonight by myself. Not a good Idea. I was able to get it done without scratching it but I am not going to try the driver side by myself.

 

Very nice!! I would have been a nervous wreck, had 28 scratches on it, and still not have it on

 

Most of the satellite plants (Kansas, Calif, etc ) assembled several makes of cars on the same assembly line.
It must have been quite a process of organization and it sure dispels the myth that Buick or Olds etc. had a better assembly quality than Chevrolet.
I believe Cadillac was the only exception. I think they were all assembled in Detroit.

 

Well, it has been a good day as I learned something new, and drool over Eric's car again.

 

My body guy called and said he has the core support done. I will get it this week.

Yesterday my second rebuild A/C compressor came in. I am much happier with this one. I have $60 in shipping, $18 in decals that were not good enough, and giving up the other rebuilt compressor just because of a decal. Talk about silly... It was one of those things that I would have been mad at every time I lifted the hood so it was worth it.

I am supposed to pick up my chrome tomorrow and my seats should be done next week. I have a couple non Oldsmobile projects I need to get done this week and next but after that I should be making great progress.

I think you will pass me up soon Joe

 

You have got all the hard stuff done. Keep going because it is looking awesome!

 

Remounted the compressor and picked up the core support. I like the core support much better now. Before it was to glossy and now it could be slightly more glossy but it is something I am ok with and not going to bother me.

 

From what I can see the core supt looks just about right.

 

My correct colored package tray finely got here. Legendary had me send them my original so they could match it. They do not offer the original color and had sent me the wrong color to begin with. The new one looks GREAT....but, They were to send my original back to me because it was in great fisical condition but just had bad color. It did not come back. I called them and she is having someone get back to me. I think they tossed it. I will not be happy if this happened because I told them up front that I want it back in the same condition. I even offered them more money if they thought they could paint it so i could just reuse it in my car. I will just have to see what they say when they call.

I am starting to wonder if the problems I have with so many vendors is me? Is it normal to have this many problems with so many of them? The only vendors I had no problem with is Fusick and Ron Memmer. There were many used parts I got from members here and every one of those transactions went perfect. I have had problems with Inline Tube, OPGI, small problem with Classic Auto Air but not bad, Summit racing, Rock Auto, and I am sure there are others.

 

Eric,Ive had problems with Inline Tube,Legendary,Rock Auto. There are very few large vendors that I use. Thats why If at all possible I use NOS or excellent used. Some of the stuff inline tube thinks is correct is a joke. I use Fusik and The Right Stuff.

Greg

 

If it makes you feel any better, I've had very similar experiences. Although I've been lucky to date with Rock Auto. On the plus side I've had consistent good dealings with Supercars Unlimited and Karp. Also good experiences with individuals on the classifieds here.

 

I think Inline Tube goofed up again. I got my transmission cooler lines almost two years ago from Inline Tube. I hooked them up today and I think I got the wrong ones. I had to bend them alot to get them to work and they don't look right. I feel sure they are wrong. What do you guys think? I plan to send them some pictures and see what they say. My car was missing the originals so I don't have any to go by.

 

I dealt with them once. Five years ago they sent me '69 detailing decals for my '68 GTO. When I told them, they said it was my mistake. Guess what? That was the last time I ever even THOUGHT about doing business with them.

 

When I had my '71 Supreme, I replaced my trans cooler lines with ones bought from Inline, it took a bit of tweaking to get them to fit...I wasn't pleased, they are over rated.

 

I have had my issues with ILT during my restoration, I no longer buy from them unless they have something no one else has. I posted something about them a few years back was accused of slander, the trans tubes that I purchased from them did fit with just a little tweaking though.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...line-tube.html

 

I bought a pair trans lines from them many years ago, they didn't fit worth a damn. Threw them in the garbage and bought from the Right Stuff Detailing they fit perfectly.

 

I've had the same results as you guys. My transmission lines, which I bought in 2012 on our way home from the Nationals wouldn't line up the way they are suppose to at the transmission, but we made it work. Now, as you can see in the pictures, the top one is leaning way out and will have to be tweaked to get it to line up to the rad fitting. It better.
You are wasting your time and energy trying to get them to make restitution or even admit there is a problem. I too, buy from them only when I have to as they have alot of items you can't find anywhere else, and that is the crux of the problem. Customer service be damned I guess. I went throught this with the quarter window pillar seals, the ones they sent were way too small and the screws couldn't line up. After several emails, I gave up.
On a similar issue, I wanted only the two short fuel lines, the ones that go through the frame at the front with the wrapping on them. Inline only sells the entire lines and wouldn't separate them. I contacted Classic Tube and they only sell them as a set as well, but because I am from Canada and shipping would be high for the long pieces, he agreed to sell me the short lines and even called me to confirm before sending them to me. Can you imagine that service from Inline? Not a chance. I've said enough.
Your W30 is coming along beautifully, it will be quite a sight when completed.

 

Eric, my trans lines seemed to fit well, but I have obviously not connected them to the radiator yet. I bought all my tubing from ILT - here's what I encountered on each:

Rear brake lines from dist. block to cylinders - no issues

Front to rear fuel and return lines - no issues, except the very rear bends on the repos are at a 90 - they point straight down to the ground vs. at a 45 - pointing to the left rear tires. I kept my originals on this one for comparison because I thought - if anywhere - this would be where I would have trouble. I plan on bending the lines back to the correct 45 deg. angle before installing the line to tank connections. The two short connector pieces that go through the crossmember wee exact matches.

Front to rear brake line - biggest problem I had. The thing fit very well during the installation without anything else being on the car, but when I went to install the backdrive frame bracket, the problem arose - the line goes along the frame exactly where the bracket attaches. I have had to bend the line down to get the bracket mounted, and am probably going to do a little more tweaking on it when I get it back to make it look right. (Got this info from Greg Godon - he says the ILT part is in fact wrong) It is like they made the master pattern on a line from a car that did not have a backdrive bracket - maybe a 68?

Front lines to brake hoses - no issues

Trans modulator line - don't know since I reused the original.

Were yours the same?

 

I had a couple very minor issues installing my brake and fuel lines but nothing that was a big deal. I figure the line workers likely tweaked them a little when installing them from time to time. I don't remember having issues at the back drive bracket. I don't think I modified mine and is well under the bracket.

It is sad that there are this many bad opinions about Inline tube and all with the same general thing in common. This is very likely the last car I ever do so I won't likely have to deal with them any more.

 

Thanks for the pic. Mine is not bent like yours. If it were it would fit perfectly. I wonder how this could have happened on mine and not yours since they are for the exact same car and ordered from the same supplier who makes their own product?

 

I bet they sent you the wrong one. It is the story with them on every order I get from them.

 

What a surprise. I called Inline Tube yesterday and they had me send them an email with pictures and a scanned copy of the receipt. They just called me and said they will work something out and get back to me tomorrow with the details. I just wish I could have got the lines before this weekend but don't look like that will happen.

 

Inline Tube called me back Wednesday and said they for sure sent me the wrong ones and I did order the correct ones. They ask if i would cover shipping if they give me a new set. I told them with it being two years I didn't have a problem with that. I know I have complained about them several times the past year but at least they worked with me on this one.

 

Well, I'll say this. The vendors know it is often quite a while before we discover an error like this. The good vendors suck it up on the shipping. (Fatman Fabrications comes to mind). I'm not impressed at all that ILT even asked you to cover shipping. IT'S THEIR MISTAKE!

 

Do you think maybe their watching threads on this site?

 

Yes

 

I agree but after the firewall insulation ordeal I was just glad to get another set for shipping. I figured they would tell me to go jump and I would have to pay for another set.

 

In my experience ILT has been good to correct the part errors, which where largely due to mistakes in their catalog (printing errors). On most occasions ILT said they would cover shipping, but I don't recall that they actually ever did.

I restored a Chevelle an umber of years ago. The availability of reproduction lines happened when I was in the depths of the project. I got every thing from Fine Lines in stainless. Each line I had to spend hours massaging to fit, re-orienting bends, figuring out how absorb a half inch somewhere along the length so the end would be in the right place, etc. I would hope it's a lot better now.

 

I am going to have to get a new camera, This is not taking very good pictures.

I got several projects done today. I found a windshield for my car but is going to be a couple weeks till I can get it. I had an order of things I had planned to do and now I am mixing it all up. With waiting on some things I decided to go ahead and mount my left fender. It went better than expected. Also installed the trunk weatherstrip, trunk lid moldings and 442 emblems, passenger side drip rail molding, and front and back glass trim clips.

I worked on adjusting the driver side glass and figured out that I did not have the roof rail weatherstrip channel installed correct. I took the weatherstripping out to readjust the channel. The front connector that fits in the corner had the plastic loose on it and now after removing it, it is about to fall off. I don't have any good extras so I have one coming from oldspackrat.

I want to do more but out of time today and tomorrow will be Church and family events for Easter.

Have a good Easter everyone.

 

She is looking great! I can wait until I get my cars here and can start working on them again!

 

Hooked up the A/C lines tonight. I wanted to install them before I mount the passenger fender so I was not leaning over the new paint. I will bring home the nitrogen tank from work and pressure check it tomorrow. I thought the O rings should have been a little fatter to seal good but these are thin that they give me. I plan to mount the passenger fender Saturday.