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Old December 8th, 2020, 10:06 AM
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Painted the firewall ;
Now I'm sanding the trunk . As soon as I get some Zolatone samples and order some , I will paint the trunk .
Looks great. So the Dynamic trunk did not get carpet or cardboard side panels like the Starfire or 98?
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Old December 8th, 2020, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by therobski
any ideas or tips on how to change the fuel filter in the glass bowl? That little bugger is not in a good spot and easily accessible..
It's a helluva lot easier without the front fenders on .
Patience , grasshopper , patience .
Sometimes , some of these things can be better accessed from underneath .
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Looks great. So the Dynamic trunk did not get carpet or cardboard side panels like the Starfire or 98?
On Dynamic 88's the bottom of the trunk " pan" got some cheap carpet .
There were cardboards on either side to block things from falling into the trunk " side wells " .
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Old January 18th, 2021, 06:45 PM
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Time to update this thread with a couple of projects .
The first was the trunk .I had sandblasted and coated the trunk "pan" .
I then sanded the rest of the trunk and coated it with a tan colored primer .





While I wait for my Koroseal water based spatter paint from Canada . (weather too cold to ship now ) .
I turned my attention to the gas tank .
The tank was pretty good shape , but contained about a quart of ten year old gasoline
I removed the sender, checked it with an ohm meter , and sent it off to Tri-Starr .
I then took a pressure washer and soap proceeded to clean it inside and out .
Then I set it on one end , and proceeded to vacuum the remaining water and debris out with a wet or dry vac .






The bottom of the tank had numerous ding and dents that I'm in the process of filling with All-Metal now.



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I painted my door jams , window frames . and trunk edges today ;

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Old January 22nd, 2021, 07:42 AM
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That fuel tank looks great for an original 1963; must be the dry desert climate. Project is lookin' good Charlie!
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Old January 22nd, 2021, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 67OAI
That fuel tank looks great for an original 1963; must be the dry desert climate. Project is lookin' good Charlie!
Thanks Jim ,
I almost thought of trying to clean it up and clear coat it . But there were some small rust spots and the bottom needs dents filled .
So I will paint with argent silver .
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Finished up and painted the gas tank .





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Old February 3rd, 2021, 09:20 PM
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I turned my attention to the battery tray today . My tray was really shot , but I found one that was a little better in a junkyard in NM .
I had the junkyard tray sandblasted and powdercoated .
It was missing one corner , that was rusted off . I cut a piece from my old tray and epoxied it to the tray .
The next step will be to reinforce the whole works with fibreglass mat and resin .








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Hello Charlie, on my 63 Starfire can you help identify in the picture there are 2 holes that I believe that there is a bracket missing for the battery hold down brackets? Thanks.


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Old February 4th, 2021, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by therobski
Hello Charlie, on my 63 Starfire can you help identify in the picture there are 2 holes that I believe that there is a bracket missing for the battery hold down brackets? Thanks.


Yes Rob , that is where one of the brackets for one of the battery hold down attaches .
Here's an illustration to show you what you're missing ;





Your battery tray looks better than most . I wish someone would re-pop them .
Someone probably took the battery hold down off when they put in a " too large " battery .
That battery tray and hold down setup was made for a group 60 battery . It's obsolete , and only available from antique battery makers .

Delco 60K AGM Classic Car Sealed Scrip Battery (batterycentralmall.com)
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Old February 4th, 2021, 12:31 PM
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Yes the tray is in really great condition and is all cleaned up now. After wire wheeling, I sprayed with Eastwood rust incapsulator. Then finished it in semi flat black rattle can. Be hard pressed me locating that bracket! But Ill get some feelers out there you never know until you ask.
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Old February 4th, 2021, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by therobski
. Be hard pressed me locating that bracket! But Ill get some feelers out there you never know until you ask.
The top bracket is available from Fusick ;
Battery Hold Down, 1963-64 Olds 88-98-Starfire-Fusick Automotive Products, Inc.

On the other parts , you might check with Pat McMahon (deadds ) or John Hoppe ( jhoppeolds ) .
They may both be parting early sixties big cars .
Also try Hess Bros Auto Wrecking in Calif. They have several Starfires and other big cars in their yard .
Phone ; 530-824-4100

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Old February 4th, 2021, 07:53 PM
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Here's another gem from E-Bay .
The "J" bolt that goes in front of the battery .
2 NOS GM Chevy J Bolts 325053 Battery Hangers | eBay
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Thanks Charlie, looks like with those 2 holes in the core support what maybe a 90 degree bracket that bolts to it. Ill call your references. The J hangers I have.
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Old February 6th, 2021, 07:23 PM
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I laid several layers of fibreglass mat and resin on the thin rusty remains of this battery tray.
The best part is this patchwork won't be seen . because a battery will sit right on top of it .




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Old February 7th, 2021, 06:26 AM
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X2 I like to use fiber glass mat and resin. Works great in these applications..
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Old May 23rd, 2021, 04:11 PM
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I have been lax about keeping this thread up . But I'm still working on this car.

I removed the trans and cut a hole in the floor for the shifter with a jigsaw .









I reinstalled the trans , and discovered it was too close to the floorboard .




The shifter sat too high . the problem was the rear engine mounts set the rear of the engine too high .



I'm going to have to change the mounting to something similar to this ;




I'm waiting on some different mounts now .
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In the meantime I got a couple of other things done .

I got my original 63 Olds AM/FM radio out and hooked it up to two new speakers and a battery . And it works perfectly .

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I got my two rear brake lines installed ;




I also took the re-built alternator apart to change the "clocking " position of the back cover and to put the correct fan on it from my old alternator



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It's been a month since I have up-dated this thread .
I've been busy doing lots of small projects . I painted the top of the dashboard ;





Then I installed the firewall pad under the dash ;






Then I removed the power steering pump reservoir , cleaned and painted it , and installed it on a re-built pump ;






Then I put the pump on the engine . But I couldn't find the rear bracket .
I know it's here somewhere in the shop and this project will continue when it is found .






I then went on to install the heater and A/C components ;











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Charlie, did you find gas tank sending unit gasket material ?
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Charlie thanks for posting things for us Old Olds "darksiders" I'm going to get Glen over here and change the 2 rear engine mounts on the 63 Starfire soon. Maybe a bit of a task since I no longer have access to a lift. Great job.
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Old June 24th, 2021, 06:57 AM
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Charlie, did you find gas tank sending unit gasket material ?
I haven't yet , haven't thought about it much lately .
I'll have to snoop around on the net for it Has to be ethanol resistant too .
Hope I don't have buy too big of a piece .
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Charlie thanks for posting things for us Old Olds "darksiders" I'm going to get Glen over here and change the 2 rear engine mounts on the 63 Starfire soon. Maybe a bit of a task since I no longer have access to a lift. Great job.
Here's a heads up .
Before you start that job , make sure you have both motor mounts in hand .
There is suddenly a shortage of left side mounts . I need one myself .
I can get right side mounts all over . Rock Auto has them cheap , they are all over e-Bay . (#2217)
But the left side (#2216) , nobody has .
Fusick offers a pair in their catalog . But when I ordered a pair , they were backordered .
I called the guy at Fusick and he told me he was not sure when they would get them in .

When you go to change them , block the car up about two feet on four jackstands .
Use a floor jack under the flywheel housing to raise the engine .

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Charlie, I have two of the rear power steering brackets and I'd be willing to let loose of one.

I actually have two; I bought one to "chop up" because they don't clear my tall Offenhauser rocker covers and I like to keep all the stock parts to the car that i do remove in case i want to return it to "stock". When mocking up the rocker covers to cut the rear bracket i noticed how rigid the PS pump is with just the front bracket so I just don't run a rear bracket, its overkill.
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Charlie, I have two of the rear power steering brackets and I'd be willing to let loose of one.

I actually have two; I bought one to "chop up" because they don't clear my tall Offenhauser rocker covers and I like to keep all the stock parts to the car that i do remove in case i want to return it to "stock". When mocking up the rocker covers to cut the rear bracket i noticed how rigid the PS pump is with just the front bracket so I just don't run a rear bracket, its overkill.
Thanks , if I don't find it soon I may have to take you up on it .
I will PM you if I need it .
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Thanks Charlie, actually have all new 3 mounts in the box!
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Dang. I thought I was going to get out of that job. Just kidding Rob.
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Hey Glen, think of it as a good back stretch exercise!
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Old August 29th, 2021, 08:59 PM
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Time to update this thread .
I got my throttle linkage installed ;




Afer that , I set about to " engineer " a solution to the motor mount problem .
The previous mounts that I made were all wrong . They mounted the transmission way too high .
And the trans still was barely clearing the second crossmember .
I took the whole works apart and started over . I took the second crossmember out and turned it around .
Then I took the 49-53 mounts and turned them around backwards and mounted them directly to the engine block .





My plan is to weld extensions on the top of the mount so it will bolt up to the upper bolt on the block .
It was necessary to elongate the motor mount holes ;


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I've got the left side mocked up , and everything fits .
The bolt in the middle will be removed once the two pieces are welded , And then the hole will be welded shut..







The stacks of washers will be replaced by specially machined spacers welded to the mount .



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Got my clutch linkage installed , along with the master cylinder .



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Old November 14th, 2021, 06:11 PM
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Progress has been slow lately .
I'm still waiting on my machinist to make my motor mount spacers .
In the meantime , I have found other things to do .

I did a test fit of the clutch and brake pedals . The brake pedal is an original '63 stick shift brake pedal , the clutch pedal is NOS ..




The clutch and brake pedal rubber was bead blasted and look like new .




Next , I turned my attention to the windshield wipers .
In 2015 I cleaned the wiper motor up and rebuilt the washer pump .
And it looked like this ;




I wrapped it in newspaper , and put it in a box on the shelf for six years .
I had forgotten that the roof leaked in the meantime , and this is what I pulled out of the box ;




Now I had to start all over .
Most of the corrosion and rust was on the outside . Due to the wet newspaper .
I got busy with a small dremel and sandpaper and I'm cleaning it up and polishing it .
The zinc plating is too far gone and will have to be painted .








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Great detailed craftsmanship Charlie. We all appreciate you showing us your working progress...
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Old January 14th, 2022, 07:54 PM
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After a lot of polishing and painting , then reassembly .
This was the result;


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Old January 14th, 2022, 08:05 PM
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I just got another A/C condenser from Miguel-x . Much better than the one I had .




Some of the fins were bent, especially at the top .
So I used a "fin straightener " to straighten them up.




This is what it looked like when all "combed " .


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Very nice work!
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Looking good. I never heard of a fin comb
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