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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 09:32 PM
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Length of Olds 400 push rods

I have just purchased a used olds 442 400 engine. I assume the specs of the pistons are .030 as the top of the piston has that engraved in it. How do I find out the stock length of push rods for. the 66 olds 400 engine?

How will I know if the main bearings and rod bearings have up sized to a 010 020. 030 etc....

How can I tell if the cam is still good to use!

The reason I ask all these questions is that when I pulled the head all the valves and spring and seat etc. had been redone. The valves had never even seen fire and still had marker numbers on each valve.

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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 66oldz
I have just purchased a used olds 442 400 engine. I assume the specs of the pistons are .030 as the top of the piston has that engraved in it.
The pistons are most likely .030" O.S. if they are marked as such. What you don't know is:
1. the bore size.
2. how much piston clearance.
3. what is the deck height.
4. are the pistons cast or forged.
5. piston manufacturer.
I assumed they must have been aftermarket pistons because valve reliefs were sloppily machined into the tops from pictures on another thread.


How do I find out the stock length of push rods for. the 66 olds 400 engine?
One of the members on here will know, or Cutlassefi.

How will I know if the main bearings and rod bearings have up sized to a 010 020. 030 etc....
They could be marked on the back side of the bearings. Measuring the crank rod and main diameters with a micrometer will tell you.

How can I tell if the cam is still good to use!
First, you need to identify the camshaft and manufacturer. You may want to use a different camshaft, depending on what you have.

The reason I ask all these questions is that when I pulled the head all the valves and spring and seat etc. had been redone. The valves had never even seen fire and still had marker numbers on each valve.
I hope you have a notebook to write down the answers. I hope you have a Chassis Service Manual. Do you have precision measuring tools ?

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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 09:12 AM
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Just for the heck of it, are you 100% sure it's a 66 short stroke 400E? Right next to the oil fill tube on the block the numbers should start with a 925...if its a 68 on up 400 it's all different..
Old Dec 23, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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The early 400 engine used a 7” connecting rod. The 7” rod was also used in the 425 engines.


I would suggest you turn the engine so a piston is at TDC and measure the piston-to-deck clearance. Then cc the head combustion chambers. With this information, you can calculate the true compression ratio. Once you have that info, you can use it to determine an appropriate camshaft profile.
The cam you have may be OK, or maybe not.

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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by therobski
Just for the heck of it, are you 100% sure it's a 66 short stroke 400E? Right next to the oil fill tube on the block the numbers should start with a 925...if its a 68 on up 400 it's all different. .
The 66-67 (short stroke 400E) engine block casting number was verified by a pic in another thread. He also has B heads which are from a 1965 short stroke 400 also verified by a pic on the other thread.
Old Dec 23, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Thanks Oldster, just making sure!!. as a lot of guys know my 64 F-85 has a 67 400E with 65A heads Merry Christmas to all.
Old Dec 23, 2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
He also has B heads which are from a 1965 short stroke 400 also verified by a pic on the other thread.
Also found on 66E 400's in 66 442's.
Old Dec 24, 2019 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
Also found on 66E 400's in 66 442's.
Thanks, I stand corrected.
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