1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass receiving water
#1
1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass receiving water
Hey Guys, I have a 1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass/F85 4-Door Sedan. I am in the process of restoring the floor pans, trunk, under-body, and all lines. The front driver and passenger floor pans are rusted out and partial of the middle transmission hump, and right up under the front bench seat where the seat attaches to the Middle Body Brace. Next, it is also rusted out under the rear seat in both corners near the inside Quarters. Last but not least, inside the trunk right behind the rear seat divider on the top floor deck, both sides near the Top Quarters are rusted-out. Also, the driver left and passenger right trunk floor pans are also rusted. Lastly, the Driver and passenger Side Quarter Drop offs are completely rusted.
#3
Wow, thanks for the advice Allan R!
But, anyway if anybody know where I might be receiving water from I will greatly appreciate it. My frame and body is solid just some surface rust. I rather restore everything back to its original state. I have mostly all my parts to restore just want to stop the water before I start welding in new panels.
But, anyway if anybody know where I might be receiving water from I will greatly appreciate it. My frame and body is solid just some surface rust. I rather restore everything back to its original state. I have mostly all my parts to restore just want to stop the water before I start welding in new panels.
#4
X2 Sorry to be the bummer on your plans but the cost will be tremendous and the value is not there. If it runs good and you can enjoy it as is then go ahead and do that. Maybe pop rivet in some metal patches, etc. You could easily spend $10-12,000 or more restoring a car that is worth maybe $4 or 5 thou. I've lived in Michigan my whole life and I know about rust. Check out some of the threads on here about restorations, not cheap and take a lot of time.
#6
I would suggest that before you spend any money on this car, pull the stainless trim from around the windshield and back window. I suspect you will find that there is pinchweld rust, which is causing the leak. The only way to repair this is welding in new metal. As the others have said, you can probably buy a rust-free western four door for a lot less than the cost to fix this one. Also note that the repro floor pans available are for the shorter two door cars. You might have a problem finding replacement pans for a four door. Your money, your call.
#7
Olds taking in water
Thanks Joe for that info to 'Check seals windows, doors, front and back windshields' and for your advice to pull the stainless trim from around the windshield and back window. Because that's what I originally suspected in the first place. Finally, someone have answered the question I've been asking all alone.
For Alan R. and Greg, I am a 'Certified Welder' by trade. Also, I have been offered over $10,000 for my car on several occasions. I don't know from who or how you purchase your parts for restorations but I already have all my pans and more to do the job for the inside of the car and trunk. I also have new 3-vent gas-tank with hoses, sending unit, and straps. Yet, I have not spent no more than $500.00 total. So far, I have already blast and rust restored the entire rear under-body. Now, I am working my way towards the front of the vehicle. So, once I discover the leak and seal it I am home free. Then, I can start welding, I was just trying to get my question answered to help guide me in the right direction to find the leak. But, thanks anyway Alan and Greg for the destructive criticism I need all I can get.
For Alan R. and Greg, I am a 'Certified Welder' by trade. Also, I have been offered over $10,000 for my car on several occasions. I don't know from who or how you purchase your parts for restorations but I already have all my pans and more to do the job for the inside of the car and trunk. I also have new 3-vent gas-tank with hoses, sending unit, and straps. Yet, I have not spent no more than $500.00 total. So far, I have already blast and rust restored the entire rear under-body. Now, I am working my way towards the front of the vehicle. So, once I discover the leak and seal it I am home free. Then, I can start welding, I was just trying to get my question answered to help guide me in the right direction to find the leak. But, thanks anyway Alan and Greg for the destructive criticism I need all I can get.
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Just an Olds Guy
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. I have a project car that needs a lot of help to restore. I'm a welder by trade so the work won't be a problem. The issue is the car has a lot of lower body rust and I don't know how it got there. My car is a 1971 Cutlass Towne Sedan. I know it's not something that most people would look twice at, but it's something that I like. In the meantime I've sourced and acquired the needed parts and sheet metal that I'll need to get the job done. I'll try to post pictures soon so you can see what I'm dealing with and offer suggestions about where to look for water leaks that may be coming into the car.
#9
Look, I'm the worst person in the world when it comes to putting waaaay more money into a car than it is worth, so I'll certainly never criticize anyone for doing that. Folks here are simply suggesting that you make these decisions with your eyes open. Frankly, if you can get someone to give you $10K for an F-85 more-door, you should run, not walk, to the bank with the money. And unless you value your time at nothing, the cost of the parts will be a minor factor in the cost of repair and restoration. Again, not a criticism, just a fact.
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Just an Olds Guy
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Posts: 24,525
Hey Guys, I have a 1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass/F85 4-Door Sedan. I am in the process of restoring the floor pans, trunk, under-body, and all lines. The front driver and passenger floor pans are rusted out and partial of the middle transmission hump, and right up under the front bench seat where the seat attaches to the Middle Body Brace. Next, it is also rusted out under the rear seat in both corners near the inside Quarters. Last but not least, inside the trunk right behind the rear seat divider on the top floor deck, both sides near the Top Quarters are rusted-out. Also, the driver left and passenger right trunk floor pans are also rusted. Lastly, the Driver and passenger Side Quarter Drop offs are completely rusted.
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