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Old January 17th, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Some More Interesting Details During 71 Tear Down

Here's a couple more things I have found during the tear down of a 71 Framingham built Supreme.

1) Idler Arm Washers. Idler arm has never been off, but the washers between the bolt head and frame are zinc, not phosphate. I've learned (thanks Patton) there are very few fasteners that are not phosphate under the car or hood - this is a rarity.

2) Brake Hose To Frame Brackets. Again, never removed before, and it looks like on the protected side these parts may have not been plated at all.

3) Steering Gear Bolt Marking. Man this baby had a lot of marking paint on it. It also interesting how the top bolt is always so well preserved and the two bottoms are usually badly corroded.
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Old January 17th, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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I've pulled some of those power steering box bolts before that were totally rusted in half. The threads stay in the box as you pry it off the frame.
Old January 18th, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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when ya get to ball joints and those type of suspension parts, see if you can find copper plating on them...a few things ive found is castle nuts..and the bolts and nuts that hold the rear brake baking plates are copper coated..so are some of the cotter pins...

i have boxes of NOS from a dealership and could never figure out what they where for and i started seeing posts on it on other forums..
Old January 18th, 2016 | 07:34 PM
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when ya get to ball joints and those type of suspension parts, see if you can find copper plating on them...a few things ive found is castle nuts..and the bolts and nuts that hold the rear brake baking plates are copper coated..so are some of the cotter pins...

i have boxes of NOS from a dealership and could never figure out what they where for and i started seeing posts on it on other forums..
Mark, the cotter pins on the tie rods and the center link are copper colored, but the ball joint ones are steel on this car. I was wondering about this myself. I'll post a pic of one - also it is pretty short.
Old January 18th, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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yep..short with a big eye..the eyes seem over sized to me

theres 2 theories....ground, and since its a serviceable part its anti seize...

i have some friends that worked in dealerships in the 60s and 70s..i keep forgetting to ask them why...

if i can get to them, i will shoot some pics of all the diff types
Old January 18th, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Here's those pics.
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Old January 18th, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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Something really surprising - at least to me. I've always seen in the ILT sticker detail kits the yellow oval decal that is supposed to go on the power steering gearbox. Never actually seen an original on a car. A LONG time ago,someone spray bombed the whole gearbox and look what I found today while cleaning it. Notice the location.
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Old April 26th, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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Don't know if anyone besides me cares, but I found a couple more interesting things that might be unique to Framingham cars.

1) Dash sticker. I found this on the dash which would be covered by the glovebox. I've never seen another car with it. It kind of looks like those stickers that go on the gauge housings

2) Bolt on pedal support bracket. There was a bolt holding this bracket to the dash frame that I don't recall seeing on Lansing cars. I seem to think the cars I've done are only supported by those very large internal star washer retainer things until the two big nuts are installed. Pic shows location of the hole.

3) Primer everywhere. Even in the pockets that the kick panels cover, it looks like all the surfaces of the body shell are covered in red primer. Were the Framingham car body shells dipped in primer before being painted? The pic taken shows the remains of the insulation adhesive in those kick panel vent area.
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Old April 26th, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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Joe,
I have seen the bolt in brake cage on many cars. A couple years ago I had a customer that wanted all I could get as they were turning them into 4-speed brake cages and reselling them. I don't think that is a exclusively Framingham thing.
Old April 26th, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Joe,
I have seen the bolt in brake cage on many cars. A couple years ago I had a customer that wanted all I could get as they were turning them into 4-speed brake cages and reselling them. I don't think that is a exclusively Framingham thing.
Scott, thanks for letting me know what is the correct name for that part. So, the M/T cars have a different cage? Gulp, do you have one available?
Old April 27th, 2016 | 02:25 AM
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I have only had one California built Olds and it was a 72 Cutlass. It had more red primer in more places than any other I ever had. I never seen that much on a Michigan car.
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Joe,
I should clarify. The customer was making new pedal assemblies and needed the brake cages to mount them too. The cages are the same whether it is a automatic or manual transmission.
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