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Old August 5th, 2013, 02:43 PM
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overheating on 65 442 400

I have been chasing this for some time now. I bought the car last year and it had been sitting for about 5 years. It will run alittle hot on the highway 190. When you get on side roads it runs about 200. The real problem is when at idle or slow speed it will climb to 220-230. It doesn't puke but its not running cool enough. I had the radiator boiled out and rodded out. I replaced and checked thermostat 180 degree. I put all new hoses and water pump. Timing is 10 degree at idle and 27 degee at 3000 rpm. I'm lost as to what else I can check to get this to run cooler. I also flushed the block. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 02:48 PM
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It should cool to T stat value on the highway. You did not state your rear gearing. I would say your radiator may be too small. How many rows is it. Even though it has been cleaned you cannot see what is in there. There still could be restrictions.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 03:29 PM
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Is the fan clutch working you mentioned it get hot at idle maybe check or make a shroud to help
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Old August 5th, 2013, 06:19 PM
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Your timing needs to be advanced. Timing will effect idle temps. What distributor are you running? What was the outside air temp for the readings you provided? Your cruising temps are ok for a hot day. A 180 degree thermostat begins to open at 180 so 190-200 close to normal. Your low speed and idle temp is based on lack of air or sometimes water flow issues. What brand water pump did you buy? Is yours a fixed or clutch fan setup?
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Old August 5th, 2013, 06:51 PM
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It has an HEI in it now. I purchased a new water pump from elgin industries out of Illinois along with a new fan clutch
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Old August 5th, 2013, 06:53 PM
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Have you replaced your radiator cap as well?
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Old August 5th, 2013, 06:55 PM
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yes new cap from parts place.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 06:58 PM
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It has the factory shroud. The radiator is the original harrison 3 row that the radiator shop rodded out and said it wasnt that bad for sitting so long.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 07:08 PM
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Just wondering if its a ac car ?
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Old August 5th, 2013, 08:48 PM
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Does your timing advance anymore past 3000 Rpm. If not, I'd start with bumping it up to about 17/18 initial which will bring it to 34/35 @ 3000. See what your temps are there.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 09:43 PM
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How old is the gas in it?
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Old August 6th, 2013, 05:07 AM
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I'll advance the timing and see what happens.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 05:59 AM
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The other thing is watch your vacuum advance. Some of the canisters that come with the HEI's are not adjustable, you don't want to exceed 50 deg BTDC with it connected @ 3000. Also if you hook it to manifold vacuum after you have your timing set, and readjust the idle down it will help your temp issue.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. The vacuum advance is not hooked up at this time. I was going to change back to a new original points distributor with a petronix ignitor. But I could not get the distributor to lift out.
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new. I have put about 2500 highway miles on it. It runs great on highway and no overheating issues. it only acts up around town or at idle.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:09 AM
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no a/c. 3.73 gears. 350 turbo trans. original 3.42 posi and jetaway.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 65droptop442
The vacuum advance is not hooked up at this time.
The 10-15° of advance at cruise that you get with the vacuum advance may serve to cool your engine down a bit.

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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:47 AM
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Sorry we lost power here for about an hour. So what is your temp going to at idle? What did you set your timing to?
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Dont know if anyone else mentioned it but Air/fuel mixture will cause overheating too if it's lean. Check for vacuum leaks.
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