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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:09 AM
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I am going to change my Olds over to dual exhaust and was hoping for a little advice. I am getting the correct "S" driver's side manifold Thornton reproductions and am debating if I should also change the passenger side manifold as well. I could just go with a block off plate to save some money but wonder if it would work better with a new dual exhaust manifold. I did have the manifolds planed when I had them off over the winter so that is not an issue. If I do put on new manifolds then I am taking to a shop about 5 miles from here to have the exhaust installed. should I have the car towed or trailered there? Other than being really loud will running it from here to there hurt anything?
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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:46 AM
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The block off plate is what the factory did and it is fine. The only manifolds without the block off would be a 442 manifold or Toronado rt side manifold. It would be your choice as what to use. As for driving with just the manifolds on I am not sure its a good idea (reasoning am not sure of) and surely you would have to make certain that the hot exhaust does not damage anything underhood.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 09:45 AM
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If you are going to drive it to the location you need to at least install a temporary pipe that directs the exhaust flow under the car. I have seen many underhood componants melted by people letting the exhaust exit under the hood. Not to mention the amount of fumes you would be getting inside the car.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 10:07 AM
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I had dual exhaust installed on my 71 98 after I installed the engine with new W and Z manifolds. I put some pipe and muffler clamps on as a temporary fix when I started the engine the first time. I ended up having it towed 5 miles to the local exhaust shop becuase my insurance has free towing. I didn't know about melting under hood components. I'm glad I didn't risk it. It was only started without exhaust to move the car from the parking lot into the exhaust shop.

FWIW, I suggest having your passenger's side manifold welded closed. This will look better than a block off plate IMHO and it won't leak when the gasket gets old.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 11:45 AM
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There are no gaskets on that surface.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 02:17 PM
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It seems that I remember (from way back) that if you ran w/the exhaust exiting quickly, as you are considering, there was a danger of burnt exhaust valves. Think I would tow/put her on a trailer.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 02:49 PM
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I'll have it towed. The car has single exhaust now and a crossover pipe to the other exhaust manifold. That is where I was wondering about welding on a Block off plate or Hunk of metal to cover the hole! Or would you think that getting both the W & Z manifolds for duel exhaust is better for some reason. svnt442 what gaskets are you talking about? I did not mention gaskets.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfman98
svnt442 what gaskets are you talking about? I did not mention gaskets.
You didn't, but Olds64 did.

With a big block the W/Z manifolds would be the way to go if you have the cash. But it would depend on your budget and what you want to do with the car.

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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:26 PM
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Reminder- W & Z do not work on 65-70 B/C car. You need S & T manifolds.

W & Z will work fine on a 71-76 though!
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Old October 27th, 2009, 05:39 AM
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If you take the passenger's side manifold to a good welding shop they should be able to weld a plug into the crossover flange.

Oldsguy and I had some welding done on the exhaust manfiolds of his 1969 Olds Delta 88. It cost about $100 to have his passenger's side manifold crossover welded closed, and to have the exit flange on his driver's side manifold welded back on. We cut the back of a driver's side Toronado manifold off and had it welded on 180* rotated so it would clear the steering on his 1969 Delta 88. It was alot of work, but at the time we didn't know about the S & T manifolds. Plus, it ended up being cheaper. $100 for labor, an hour with a hacksaw in the garage, and about $20 for the Toronado manifold.
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Old October 27th, 2009, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
Reminder- W & Z do not work on 65-70 B/C car. You need S & T manifolds.

W & Z will work fine on a 71-76 though!
Right they were advertising the "S" type for the driver's side , so the other is a "T" type?
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The S manifold is the only one that will work on the left side. For the right hand side you have options although a muffler shop will need to make the correct bends for the pipe depending on what manifold you choose.
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