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Old April 28th, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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68 serial # and body tag don't match

Hi, my 68 442 convert tags don't match. Dash reads 34467, cowl reads 33667, I was told that this is common for a 68. If that is true where do I find documentation for this?
Old April 28th, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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There are some 1968 gurus on this board. Hopefully one of them will see your thread. John
Old April 28th, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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As I understand, trim tags from all of the assembly plants in model year 1968 used "36" on the trim tag instead of "44". The VINs indicated that it was a true 442. In model year 1969, again as I understand, all of the assembly plants went to "44" in the trim tag except for Lansing, which still used "36". I hope someone else steps in to verify this because my memory is a little weak.

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PS: My '68 Lansing 442 vert uses "36" on the trim tag and "44" in the VIN.
Old April 28th, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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I read it is well documented on 442.com. I also have a 68 442 built in Lansing and the body tag and the VIN don't match. It is obvious neither have been changed. My engine matches the VIN but 442.com says even that is not absolute. Apparently they were more interested in building cars then what us collectors would think 40 years later.

Chris
Old April 29th, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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If you're looking for official documentation, I believe that Joe P. has posted here before that the use of "36" bodies for '68 442s is documented in the Fisher Body Manual.
Old April 29th, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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My 69 H/O is a "36" as well on the body tag. This would confirm at least one 69 Lansing 442 was a 36.
Old April 29th, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky44268
Hi, my 68 442 convert tags don't match. Dash reads 34467, cowl reads 33667, I was told that this is common for a 68. If that is true where do I find documentation for this?
Just noted that you're in Ontario. You might want to check with GM Vintage services. They can probably give you a lot of good info about your car if it was
a) built in Canada
b) built in US for import to Canada

Costs a few bucks, but well worth the money.
Old April 30th, 2011 | 04:57 AM
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Thanks for the info guys, I did the GM Canada thing and It came back as a 442.The guy doing the appraisal wasn't sure about the cowl tag and the vin not matching so this set him straight. Thanks again.
Old April 30th, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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Will post pics of the car asap, Thanks.
Old April 30th, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky44268
Thanks for the info guys, I did the GM Canada thing and It came back as a 442.The guy doing the appraisal wasn't sure about the cowl tag and the vin not matching so this set him straight. Thanks again.
The guy doing the appraisal doesn't know 68-69 Lansing 442's. The Cowl Tag will not start with 344, period.....

GM Canada Docs are bulletproof unless they've been faked, in which case a call to them will verify if they are legit.
Old May 2nd, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackGold
If you're looking for official documentation, I believe that Joe P. has posted here before that the use of "36" bodies for '68 442s is documented in the Fisher Body Manual.
Yes, this is right in the front of the 1968 and 1969 Fisher Body Manuals. As far as I can tell, all 1968 442s and most 69 442s came with 336xxx cowl tags but 344xxx VINs. My 68 W-30, 69 H/O, and 69 442 all have 336 cowl tags.
Old May 3rd, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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My '69 4-4-2 convertible reads 344 on the trim tag. It's a Fremont car, late May '69 production date.

Randy C.
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