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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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Are 64 442’s supposed to have B90 code if they were built after March?


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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 09:09 AM
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Are 64 442’s supposed to have B90 code if they were built after March?
Do you mean B09? Either way there is nothing on the cowl tag denoting a 442.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Do you mean B09? Either way there is nothing on the cowl tag denoting a 442.

ahh B09. Yes.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 02:44 PM
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As noted, there will be nothing on the cowl tag to designate B-09 or 4-4-2. The only things that point in that direction are the 2L (4-speed) code, which was mandatory with B-09 in '64 and the Lansing designator. These don't prove that it's a legit 4-4-2 (plenty of Lansing cars were built without B-09 and any of those could have been equipped with a 4-speed) but it had to have them to be real.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
As noted, there will be nothing on the cowl tag to designate B-09 or 4-4-2. The only things that point in that direction are the 2L (4-speed) code, which was mandatory with B-09 in '64 and the Lansing designator. These don't prove that it's a legit 4-4-2 (plenty of Lansing cars were built without B-09 and any of those could have been equipped with a 4-speed) but it had to have them to be real.
B09 64 442's were built @ numerous plants. Lansing, Fremont, Oshawa etc.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
B09 64 442's were built @ numerous plants. Lansing, Fremont, Oshawa etc.
I have it from a couple of different sources (but internet, right?) that they were all built in Lansing, which would make sense as they were a limited run with fewer than 3000 manufactured. However, I did find a reference in Wikipedia (of all places) that suggested some may have been built in Fremont. I've found no mention of any having been produced in Canada, but I defer to your greater knowledge.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
I have it from a couple of different sources (but internet, right?) that they were all built in Lansing, which would make sense as they were a limited run with fewer than 3000 manufactured. However, I did find a reference in Wikipedia (of all places) that suggested some may have been built in Fremont. I've found no mention of any having been produced in Canada, but I defer to your greater knowledge.
All W30's were built it Lansing but there were 442's built @ other GM plants. There was very few 64 442's built in Canada,maybe one or two.
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
All W30's were built it Lansing but there were 442's built @ other GM plants. There was very few 64 442's built in Canada,maybe one or two.
No, I didn't mean the W-30.

I would love to know where you got that info about the '64 Oshawa cars! Do you know approximately how many were produced in Fremont?
Old Jan 19, 2024 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
No, I didn't mean the W-30.

I would love to know where you got that info about the '64 Oshawa cars! Do you know approximately how many were produced in Fremont?
I once had a very nice 64 442 Conv. and I had a lot of paperwork that came with it from a longtime OCA member & friend who passed away. There was a roster and I gave all of that paperwork to Bryan Benz. Bryan is a 64 442 guru and is a member here but I can't remember his user name. I sent him a message thru FB about the production figures. He will get back with me.
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Bryan Benz is Keener on CO. Here is a thread that has talk on the Oshawa 64 442. Post # 22 has the info.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...r-help-101686/

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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 08:53 AM
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Yeah, buddy, I have a 64' 4-speed Cutlass, no 442 badging, Want to see all the info on the Fremont-produced cars.
Old Jan 19, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Update
Bryan Benz is Keener on CO. Here is a thread that has talk on the Oshawa 64 442. Post # 22 has the info.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...r-help-101686/
Beauty! Thanks.
Old Jan 21, 2024 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
No, I didn't mean the W-30.

I would love to know where you got that info about the '64 Oshawa cars! Do you know approximately how many were produced in Fremont?

I only know of 1 Oshawa built 442; it is a holiday coupe with build date first week of March. this is early but not impossible given the marketing department released a document on 2/21/64 stating the B09 option was now available. I have never seen this car, only know about it because of info collected by Denny Urban. As far as Fremont built cars, I know of at least 9 cars which is about 10% of the cars on the list of known 442s we have found over the years. If I had to guess, I would say under 20% of the 2999 cars built were assembled at Fremont. As an aside, without proper documentation or photos from the mid 60s, I would question any Fremont car that does not have a K20 air cleaner.
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Originally Posted by Keener
I would question any Fremont car that does not have a K20 air cleaner.
However, I wouldn't use this as a deal-breaker -- I shudder to think of how many of these were tossed in favor of open-element aftermarket units over the last 60 years.

Thanks for the other info. Adds perspective.
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