I was told a few days ago I should be putting zinc in my '65 330 motor at oil changes because the newer oils do not have this. He said it will kill my cam and lifters if I Don't. Any Suggestions? I have 46K and have the heads redone to run on unleaded

 

Valvoline VR1 is the only oil I use. It is made with a high ZDDP content and formulated for flat tappet cams used in old engines, such as yours, and racing applications that demand the highest possible lubricity.

Do not add anything to it, just use it straight. It comes in 10W30, 20W50, SAE 30, SAE 40, SAE 50, and SAE 60. It is also available in conventional (gray bottle) and synthetic (black bottle). I suggest using the conventional in a street engine.

 

I've used Joe Gibbs HR-2 oil since the rebuild. It has zinc in it. http://joegibbsdriven.com/products/h...mance/hr2.html

Here's a link to the Home Page: http://joegibbsdriven.com/index.html

 

I used one 10 oz bottle of ZPPD supplement to every 5 quarts at every oil change in the f-85 W31 till I went through the cases of newer Penzoil 10W30 I had on hand. Now I use EB high zinc oil (made by Torco) by the gallon from Sumitt, 10W40 in the race car and 10W30 in the f-85 W31.

 

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Yes you're right, you need to use some form of ZDDP in your oil or you risk damage to the valvetrain. You can either buy regular or synthetic oil and add ZDDP (Eastwood, Cam Shield, other brands) or buy special oil that has it in there already. Choice is yours, either way your engine will have the protection it needs.

 

The Brad Penn that I use, has plenty of ZDDP in it. Many choices out there.

 

advance auto parts, carquest, napa etc. carries the zddp additive you add to your oil from lucas oil. I usually run 15w40 rotella and a bottle of the oil additive always worked good.

 

This one discussion that has been going on for a while, you can search many. many, many threads on this topic.

 

I've heard good things about this oil. Do you know the ZDDP content?

I use Shell Rotella T in my Olds and my truck, it contains 1200ppm ZDDP.

 

Brad Penn oils have the requisite amount of zddp.

While many will consider this heresy, I would point out that STP in the blue bottle also has the needed zddp.

 

If you can find any, the OLD E.O.S. engine oil supplement GM part number is 1052367.

Recommended 1 oz. of E.O.S. per oil change for sufficient ZDDP protection.

There's been speculation/arguement the "new" E.O.S. that GM now supplies is different to protect the newer catalytic converters or something. Don't know how true that is, but I got enough of the old stuff to last me for years.

 

^^^^^^^x 2^^^^^^^^^^ My understanding is that Brad Penn is the old Kendall.

 

Don't know if it is or isn't, but Brad Penn has a good rep.

 

From the valvoline wesite: http://www.valvoline.com/faqs/motor-oil/racing-oil/76

1. Which oil has more zinc/ZDDP: VR1 or "Not Street Legal" racing oil?
   Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil contains .13 percent of zinc and .12 percent of phosphorus compared to the Valvoline "Not Street Legal" Racing Oil which contains .14 percent of zinc and .13 percent of phosphorus.

Here are some ppm numbers to compare from the two mentioned above:

VR1: 1300 ppm zinc / 1200 ppm phosphorus

Brad Penn: 1500 ppm zinc / 1300 ppm phosphorus (Southwest research lab)
1200 ppm zinc / 900 ppm phosphorus (Blackstone lab)

Decide for yourself. For me, the lower cost and availability of the VR1 makes it a no brainer.

 

Thanks for the Input People My Cutlass thanks you as well

 

Not anymore it doesn't. Rotella was one of the last holdouts in "regular" oils not marketed specifically for "racing", but it's my understanding that more recently a majority of the ZDDP has been taken out of Rotella. I use VR1 now, I like it because I can go right to the store and pick up a case.

 

http://kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/53...-oil--lab-test
zinc level 1221ppm
Lab test for defy.

Pat

 

Thats a great collection of data.

Thanks, Pat.
- Eric

 

I'm using VR-1 and Lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer.

 

I am using Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil also. I know napa auto parts carries it.

 

I use 20-50 Aszoil in my gold Toro (and plan to use the same in my red car, in the future). It has Zinc! I can find this brand at my local NAPA store.

 

I just saw this article on Hemmings. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...es/?refer=news

 

Do you know when this was as of?

My last contact with Shell was in May 2011, when they stated that the Rotella T 15w-40 contains 1200ppm ZDDP. I hope it still does, at $13/gallon and available many places here, it's a good inexpensive oil.

 

This guy is ate up with oil testing. I know it's from a chebby site, but really good reading.

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378625

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384918

 

I Called Quaker State today and their Defy 10-30 has 1000 ppm the 10-40 has 1200 ppm.1-800-Bestoil Cheers