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Old March 27th, 2018, 08:17 AM
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What other vehicles would these wheels/tires fit on?

I got rid of our Nissan NV3500 this past fall. We live out in the country now and it only got 16MPG highway, so it was time to move forward.

I put the original factory wheels/tires back on, but kept the nice ones I had upgraded to. Only have 3000 miles on them. Is there a site that I can type in wheel specs and see what else these might fit on so I can put that in my for sale ad?

They are 20x9 inch, 8x165.1, +15 offset, 125.5 bore, and 5.59 backspacing with 265/60/R20 E Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires.

Posted this in case anyone has access to a tool that might not be for the public online.

I'm thinking 3/4 and 1 ton Ram pickups maybe? I know this particular tire size was standard on the 3/4 ton GM pickups but I've yet to check the center bore and other details as to whether it would fit.

If the wheels won't fit much else, I will probably need to dismount the tires to sell.
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Ok, I just came across this site and it gives me a start:

https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/8x165.1/

"Rims with this bolt pattern may fit the following vehicles:

Chevrolet (22)
Avalanche 2500 C2500 C2500 Suburban C3500 Express 2500 Express 3500 Express Cargo Express Pasajeros K2500 K2500 Suburban K3500 R2500 Suburban Silverado 1500 HD Silverado 1500 HD Classic Silverado 2500 Silverado 2500 HD Silverado 2500 HD Classic Silverado 3500 Silverado 3500 Classic Silverado 3500 HD Suburban 2500 V2500 Suburban
Dodge (3)
Ram 2500 Ram 3500 Van 3500
Dongfeng (1)
Mengshi
Ford (3)
E-150 Econoline E-250 Econoline E-350 Econoline
GMC (6)
Savana 2500 Savana 3500 Sierra 2500 Sierra 3500 Suburban Suburban 2500
Hummer (2)
H1 H2
Nissan (3)
NV1500 NV2500 NV3500
Ram (2)
2500 3500"
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165.1 mm is 6.5". 8 x 6.5 is a very common bolt pattern for one ton trucks and heavy 3/4 ton trucks. I don't know about the center bore however.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
165.1 mm is 6.5". 8 x 6.5 is a very common bolt pattern for one ton trucks and heavy 3/4 ton trucks. I don't know about the center bore however.
I just discovered this other website and they list the CB data, though it is subject to confirmation, and also doesn't list the newer models. http://www.crawlpedia.com/bolt_patterns.htm

So I'm leaning toward basically it should work on any of them on the list in post #2 above. Worse case they would need wheel spacers. Is that line of thinking correct?
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8 x 6.5" bolt pattern is on my 86 f250. I need 0 offset and 4.5" backspacing though.

Ford has used 8 x 6.5" bolt pattern since the 70s for their 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks and vans. I think it changed though in 1999 or 2009. Oldsguy has a 2017 f250 and his wheels are 8 x 170mm. We checked because he bought some rims for his truck and the old ones wouldn't fit my truck.
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Many of those on-line bolt pattern sites have errors, so be careful. In any case, from the 1960s through the 90s (and later) all US-made one ton trucks used the 8 x 6.5 bolt pattern. I believe both Ford and GM went to 8 x 170mm sometime in the early 2000s.
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Yeah, I actually need a spare for my f250. Oldsguy and I were scrounging in a junkyard in Dallas, TX a week or two ago and I passed up a wheel sitting in the back of an e350 eventhough it was 8 lug. It was too new, I didn't want to risk getting the wrong wheel.
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What do they look like? I have a 98 Tahoe as a second car that could use some rims. Depends on how blinging they are. Not sure I want 20s on a 20 year old truck, so it depends.
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Originally Posted by Olds64
8 x 6.5" bolt pattern is on my 86 f250. I need 0 offset and 4.5" backspacing though.

Ford has used 8 x 6.5" bolt pattern since the 70s for their 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks and vans. I think it changed though in 1999 or 2009. Oldsguy has a 2017 f250 and his wheels are 8 x 170mm. We checked because he bought some rims for his truck and the old ones wouldn't fit my truck.
So the stock wheels you have for that are 8" wide then right? The ones I have are 9 inch, which on those 5" backspace would equal 0 offset. These wheels are 5.59", which would require wheel spacers to get the inside of the wheel in the same location as yours are stock. However, it could have that much clearance already in this scenario. Not that you're saying you want these wheels. Just thinking out loud.

Then there's the height issue. Most trucks should be able to handle the height difference, if there is much at all. I ended up with 2" of added height. Here is what mine came with stock vs the Nitto tires:


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Originally Posted by Koda
What do they look like? I have a 98 Tahoe as a second car that could use some rims. Depends on how blinging they are. Not sure I want 20s on a 20 year old truck, so it depends.
Let me search and see if I have a pic somewhere. I was going to muscle the whole set of 4 out over spring break and clean them up for pics.

I don't have the center caps for them, so you would need to get those from SB Wheel Manufacturing in Florida. USA made wheels and these Nitto tires are US made also. Of course so was my van, but nobody considers that to be the case since it was Nissan.
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
These wheels are 5.59", which would require wheel spacers to get the inside of the wheel in the same location as yours are stock.
No problem thinking out loud.

This is the big drawback for me. I DO NOT condone using wheel spacers. I've mentioned it on our website and I've mentioned it on the truck website I frequent.

When I was in college Oldsguy used wheel spacer / bolt pattern adapters on his 69 Delta 88 to install SS wheels. The car looked bad@$$ but one of the rear wheel spacers came loose and he came grinding/screeching to a halt. Luckily he was only going about 40mph.

Not meaning to hijack your thread or shoot you out of the water before you get a chance to sell your wheels and tires.

Hopefully Koda or someone else is interested in them. GLWS.
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Originally Posted by Olds64
No problem thinking out loud.

This is the big drawback for me. I DO NOT condone using wheel spacers. I've mentioned it on our website and I've mentioned it on the truck website I frequent.

When I was in college Oldsguy used wheel spacer / bolt pattern adapters on his 69 Delta 88 to install SS wheels. The car looked bad@$$ but one of the rear wheel spacers came loose and he came grinding/screeching to a halt. Luckily he was only going about 40mph.

Not meaning to hijack your thread or shoot you out of the water before you get a chance to sell your wheels and tires.

Hopefully Koda or someone else is interested in them. GLWS.
No I generally agree with you. I would not want them on my vehicles. However I know there are some out there that have no problem with them. Reviews are all over the place on Amazon regarding wheel spacer quality. So that, along with your story and others like it would make me not want to use them on our vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Koda
What do they look like? I have a 98 Tahoe as a second car that could use some rims. Depends on how blinging they are. Not sure I want 20s on a 20 year old truck, so it depends.
Amazon Amazon

Here is the wheel. They are out of stock of the size I have at the moment, so don't look too hard into that product page. Really hard to find USA made wheels at a reasonable cost.

And here is a pic I had from when we were moving, like I said missing the centers. I had put them aside because I didn't like the huge NASCAR logo in the center and by the time we were all done moving well, I just can't find them. Anyway, the pic...I'll post better when I make the for sale thread sometime this next weekend:


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Originally Posted by Olds64
I DO NOT condone using wheel spacers.
Never say never...

As with most things in life, there are good and bad spacers. The crappy, die cast spacers you can buy at Pep Boys are dangerous. On the other hand, I have a pair of 2" hub-centric spacers between the wheels at the back of my dually (necessary to keep the oversize tires from rubbing sidewalls). I got these from the late Fred Goeske who started Wheeladapter.com. Fred, who unfortunately passed away a few years ago, was a funny car builder and driver, who also built his own peroxide rocket engines for the funny cars. I visited his shop in the San Fernando Valley to pick up my adapters (which were about $300 for the pair) and when he found out what I did for a living, he pulled a rocket engine out of his desk drawer to show me. Pretty cool guy. His spacers are precision machined with a step feature to ensure the outer wheel is properly located on the center bore. High strength wheel studs pressed in. They've been on my truck for about 15 years now with zero issues, and I definitely load that truck up to the max frequently.




For that matter, just about every dually pickup comes from the factory with a pair of 6.5" thick wheel spacers bolted to the front hubs.

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Koda, I just looked up your vehicle and these won't work. You have 5 or 6 lug wheels. Sorry.

But really you would need a wheel adapter. I don't know if that busts your interest or not.

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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Never say never...

As with most things in life, there are good and bad spacers. The crappy, die cast spacers you can buy at Pep Boys are dangerous. On the other hand, I have a pair of 2" hub-centric spacers between the wheels at the back of my dually (necessary to keep the oversize tires from rubbing sidewalls). I got these from the late Fred Goeske who started Wheeladapter.com. Fred, who unfortunately passed away a few years ago, was a funny car builder and driver, who also built his own peroxide rocket engines for the funny cars. I visited his shop in the San Fernando Valley to pick up my adapters (which were about $300 for the pair) and when he found out what I did for a living, he pulled a rocket engine out of his desk drawer to show me. Pretty cool guy. His spacers are precision machined with a step feature to ensure the outer wheel is properly located on the center bore. High strength wheel studs pressed in. They've been on my truck for about 15 years now with zero issues, and I definitely load that truck up to the max frequently.
Yeah, just saw the pic of the wrecked Mustang with the bent wheels here. Impressive: http://wheeladapter.com/testimonials.php
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
Koda, I just looked up your vehicle and these won't work. You have 5 or 6 lug wheels. Sorry.

But really you would need a wheel adapter. I don't know if that busts your interest or not.
You are right, and those wheels are way nicer than my truck is.

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