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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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What does NOS mean?

I was under the impression that it meant FACTORY parts...

not reproductions of any type.

New - unused, though perhaps not perfect
Old - perhaps discontinued.
Stock - what the dealers "stocked" for repair and refurbishment of their models.

So, an honest seller would never sell a reproduction part with an ad whose title says "NOS" even if the ad text below says "reproduction"
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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maybe the seller thought it meant Not Old STock
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:46 PM
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New, maybe old but never sold, used, put into service.
Old, parts for a specific group of cars, or anything that needs service parts. Probably no longer manufactured, could be very old. Im sure theres NOS parts for model T's out there still.
Stock, parts a dealer or any parts warehouse would keep for servicing the industries they are in common with.
Definately not reproduction parts.
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:55 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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Chris, I thought repro stuff was labled NORS?
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 07:01 PM
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Since my girl is a 68, NOS to me would have to be parts made in or around 68..... That were probably lost in some Ol timers stash. Then refound at some estate sale, bought for pennies on the dollar then sold by some A-Hole (IMO) for an ungodly amount. I have found tons of NOS NIB stuff for various makes at estate sales. Diffence, I pick it up and sell it to buddies for what I paid it and they do the same for me.
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Right.
New, but from Older Stock
I could buy "NORS" as short for New Old Reproduced Stock.

There is a fine example of real NOS right now on feepay [ebay]
1968 442 Air cleaner
EXACTLY what the factory offered, and used.
Other sellers are shall we say less honest in their descriptions. [And their other antics]
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wls559
Since my girl is a 68, NOS to me would have to be parts made in or around 68..... That were probably lost in some Ol timers stash. Then refound at some estate sale, bought for pennies on the dollar then sold by some A-Hole (IMO) for an ungodly amount. I have found tons of NOS NIB stuff for various makes at estate sales. Diffence, I pick it up and sell it to buddies for what I paid it and they do the same for me.
I don't begrudge anybody that takes their time to go to estate sales or wherever and go through this stuff and buy and then resell it for a profit. It is just a business to them. Besides, it makes parts available that would probably end up in the trash somewhere. No doubt there are some aholes that do this but certainly not everybody that resells the stuff is. I would say more are not. If they are priced too high then nobody buys it. They also run the risk of never selling some of this stuff or holding it for a long time.
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wls559
bought for pennies on the dollar then sold by some A-Hole (IMO) for an ungodly amount.
The REAL A-Hole is the one that PAYS the ungodly amount .
Old Mar 9, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
I don't begrudge anybody that takes their time to go to estate sales or wherever and go through this stuff and buy and then resell it for a profit. It is just a business to them. Besides, it makes parts available that would probably end up in the trash somewhere. No doubt there are some aholes that do this but certainly not everybody that resells the stuff is. I would say more are not. If they are priced too high then nobody buys it. They also run the risk of never selling some of this stuff or holding it for a long time.
Not all....I have friends that do the estate sale too!! Lol. I run into those types of people the A-Holes that don't even have a classic but see the older boxes and load their trucks having no idea what they are buying. But know they can burn em on ebay after they look up the #. Oh well business to them (but still Adam Henreys to me)!
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 06:53 AM
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Chris,

Do you mean to say that advertisers LIE in their ads?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!

Just don't get me started on "numbers matching"...

By the way, NOS has always meant New Original Stock, to mean the stuff that the factory built when the cars were being produced and kept on the parts department shelves. It typically was NOT used to refer to aftermarket parts, though some have taken to using it in reference to, for example, a Hurst shifter kit that's still in the box from the 1960s. I guess I'm OK with that usage also.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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The old adage, supply and demand comes to mind.
I for one don't have a problem paying a premium for rare one off NOS items, it's all on what your ultimate goal is for your car(s).
I will admit I have spend some stupid money on many things but it's usually on stuff that will never be reproduced and it doesn't hurt so much when you don't ever see another one come to market.
I am certainly not made of money either, nor am I the envious type and respect rarity and market demand.
Some of us like to restore, sometimes over restore... and some of us like to just drive their cars.
Question you have to ask... would you buy and wear a $300 pair of jeans just to roll around under a car and change oil?
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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If you need it, and cannot find it, it's out of stock, and you don't want to scrounge for it for a year, sometimes you have to shut up, and "buck up". The sellers count on that. In the vintage toy world, they say you cannot pay too much, but sometimes "you bought it too soon". I'm quite sure that applies to muscle car parts, too.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wls559
Since my girl is a 68, NOS to me would have to be parts made in or around 68..... That were probably lost in some Ol timers stash. Then refound at some estate sale, bought for pennies on the dollar then sold by some A-Hole (IMO) for an ungodly amount. I have found tons of NOS NIB stuff for various makes at estate sales. Diffence, I pick it up and sell it to buddies for what I paid it and they do the same for me.



Sounds a little bitter..... When Oldsmobile decided to shut down, I (and several other individuals I know of, maybe even on this forum) made a decision to invest in Olds parts that everyone knows were going to be scrapped and/or sent to VPI to be resold (usually priced a little over GM list)... In the past ten years since Oldsmobile shut down, I have invested 10's of thousands of dollars in "B" & "G" Body parts to help support the hobby in the future...... Most all of the parts were purchased directly from GM ( and some from online sellers)..... I went so far as to spend the time to research dealer locators to find the last of the last before they were scrapped.... Do I expect to make money with this investment.... YOU BET.... If you would expect to make money by investing in the Stock Market, flipping houses or vehicles... why not by investing in NOS parts and selling them to those who are in search of them.... I have the space and the time, and it was a good fit for future retirement investment.....


I've sold a lot over the years, never yet been called an a-hole, and never been told my prices were ungodly... I guess a-hole and ungodly in the same sentence needs to be defined..... IMO prices are only ungodly if nobody is willing to pay it... Then as an investor you obviously will have to lower the prices to recoup your investment.... JMHO....
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 09:25 AM
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Thanks to those who had the foresight and resources to procure and store that NOS stuff. It is amazing what sort of things still pop up.

This person ALWAYS has interesting items

http://www.ebay.com/sch/442laura/m.h...p2047675.l2562

I would pay just to see that stash.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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They say there is nothing like NOS and I believe it. I bought a reproduction ignition switch for my 54 and it did not last a week. I returned it and bought an NOS Delco switch on ebay. The reproction switch was make in China and the NOS switch was make in, you guessed it, the good old USA.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Well to the CO members that personally feel offended by my use of the phrases A-Hole or ungodly, I apologize. Just my opinion regarding some or people I've ran across but certainly not all. Usually once a week I "Vulture" at estate sales (they are addicting even if you are not looking for anything particular) and see many of the same faces that have ebay stores or swap meet stands. Seeing their posts and hearing their embellished stories disgust me. I feel like leaning over right as they about to close the deal and whispering something in the customer's ear (which is something I would never do). I guess I am fortunate to have several friends who are Classic enthusiasts in my local area who have stock piled or hoarded parts for years and continue to aquire. Since not many of them own 68's I reap the benefits of having acess to the "stash" getting needed items through trade or actual aquired price + gas. So a little bitter? Naw not from anything personally done to me, maybe jaded would be a better description!
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Octania
Thanks to those who had the foresight and resources to procure and store that NOS stuff. It is amazing what sort of things still pop up.

This person ALWAYS has interesting items

http://www.ebay.com/sch/442laura/m.h...p2047675.l2562

I would pay just to see that stash.
That's Ed Fochie's daughter.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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I always wondered who she was. She has been in my fav sellers for years.
Always has nice stuff. Was her Father a big Olds guy? A back story perhaps?
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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NOS is simply part of the original run of factory parts, never installed on a car. If you had a part common to your car that went on a car 20 years later, and then they supported that part for another 10 years, you could technically get a newly made NOS part for your car 30 years later.
Old Mar 10, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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NOS = "Not off shore" POS= "Produced off shore"
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