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Old January 1st, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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rear tire smoking question



Happy new year guy's and girl's .

If wondered one thing i while now.
I see guys smoking rear tires while standing still.

Like they do on 1/4 mile as a warming up.
How do you guys do it?

Smoke the tires while moving is not a big deal, but standing still?
I'm anxious that i destroy parts of my car while trying it.

Heard off line locks, but i do not think that everyone have line locks who burn theire tires standing still.

is there a do and don't whit this?
Old January 1st, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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What's your rear end ratio?

Most of the stock late-'60s full-size cars like yours came with roughly 2:73 or 2:56 gears, which will not spin a tire from a stop, as these cars were not intended to spin tires, but to be smooth and quiet.

If you've got a lower gear, like a 3:30, then you should be able to spin them whenever you want, and if you had a very low gear, like something in the 4s, you would find it was difficult not to spin them (though you wouldn't be able to drive faster than 100kph).

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Old January 1st, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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One foot on the brake and the other all the way on the gas!
Old January 1st, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Line lock is the way to go if you want big smokey burn outs without damaging rear brake components.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvYN...&feature=share
Old January 1st, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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But... WHY???

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Old January 1st, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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it's called "power braking" around my area. real hard on the back brakes (and tires). have a foot on the brake and a foot on the gas. the front brakes have more pressure going to them so you can be light on the brakes but it is still hard on the back brakes. i think some of the smoke you see is coming from the brakes,
Old January 1st, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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If you aren't on a drag strip and ''warming up'' the tires for increased traction, don't do it. Nobody likes an ''attention *****.''

Last edited by Bunser; January 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 AM. Reason: sp. [must be the ''old fart'' showing.
Old January 1st, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Bill, you HAVE to post the line lock test in your garage. That is some funny **** right there!
Old January 1st, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bunser
If you aren't on a drag strip and ''warming up'' the tires for increased traction, don't do it.
Yeah. That looked more like the Second Battle of Ypres than a car event.

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Old January 1st, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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at the strip i'll stand on thebrakes to get the drag radials nice and sticky. but on the street all i need to do is flat foot it and she will just light them up and let those 275 60 15 smoke lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCSiWU2RNIc

from my first time at the track a few years back
Old January 1st, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Its very bad for your vehicle, dont do it. This is what happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unwujSVpZwA
Old January 1st, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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If done right, car can handle it. Real long, pedal mashed the whole time.
Thats bad, asking for trouble.
Good quick (long enough for some decent smoke) is a thing of beauty!
Old January 1st, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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if you are so worried about braking parts try this burnout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBu39z-LC7M
Old January 1st, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bunser
If you aren't on a drag strip and ''warming up'' the tires for increased traction, don't do it. Nobody like an ''attention *****.''
Except for me

If i want to drive nice smooth & quietly I'll drive my POS volvo daily driver.
Old January 1st, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Its very bad for your vehicle, dont do it. This is what happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unwujSVpZwA
Those guys are on drugs. One thing to do a brakestand. Just plain stupid to destroy the rear wheels/brakes too. Anyone else notice the coolant puking out the rad?
That's also gotta hurt the tranny...
Old January 1st, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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It's a p.o.s ramcharger I would do the same if I had a car that was crap I wouldn't do that with my olds but I do drive it like I stole it lol
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:07 AM
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What's your rear end ratio?

Most of the stock late-'60s full-size cars like yours came with roughly 2:73 or 2:56 gears, which will not spin a tire from a stop, as these cars were not intended to spin tires, but to be smooth and quiet.

If you've got a lower gear, like a 3:30, then you should be able to spin them whenever you want, and if you had a very low gear, like something in the 4s, you would find it was difficult not to spin them (though you wouldn't be able to drive faster than 100kph).

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noppe,

I got the 2.73 if i remember it well.
And a 455 (dished piston) performerintake 750 performer carb th400 OF gearbox. and a midrange cam build for torque and use the vacuum.
And driving on cooper radials 235.

I do not have any troubles to spin the rear tires.
i do smell an burned clutch smell off the th400 what i think is the stall converter if i do it to often.

With rainy weather it is scared to drive and thinking of a locker.
It wil spin the tires faster than it wil move forward.
one of the few times i be reminded that it is a big heavy car.
Otherwise it drives nice and easy cruising or autobahn


I see some people over here that are doing burn outs and still staying on the same spot.
And i was to scared to do that.
I tried and i found out the nose is diving and the rear lifts up.
So i did stop trying it, scared to brake the stall converter, brakes or the drive shaft.

Wondering what i was doing wrong.
So i can show off without hitting some people
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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nice youtube movie's!!!!!!!!!

And thanks, gonna try it again if the spring sets in.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
What's your rear end ratio?

Most of the stock late-'60s full-size cars like yours came with roughly 2:73 or 2:56 gears, which will not spin a tire from a stop, as these cars were not intended to spin tires, but to be smooth and quiet.

If you've got a lower gear, like a 3:30, then you should be able to spin them whenever you want, and if you had a very low gear, like something in the 4s, you would find it was difficult not to spin them (though you wouldn't be able to drive faster than 100kph).

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Eric,

I have a stock Olds 350 motor and 2.73 ratio rear end. I can roast my tires for about 50 yards from a dead stop. It's all in the way i set the timing i think. even i was surprised the first time i really gave her some gas.

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Old January 2nd, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Tony, when I had a '70 Cutlass with a 350, I could spin the tires at will, too, but I had 2 '68s, a Delta and a 98 (like the OP has), both with high-comp. 455s, and I could never get them to spin in normal driving. She'd get up and go like hell, but she wouldn't spin 'em.

Just my own experience, but I think that the A-bodies spin their wheels easier than the B-bodies.

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Old January 2nd, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Tony, when I had a '70 Cutlass with a 350, I could spin the tires at will, too, but I had 2 '68s, a Delta and a 98 (like the OP has), both with high-comp. 455s, and I could never get them to spin in normal driving. She'd get up and go like hell, but she wouldn't spin 'em.

Just my own experience, but I think that the A-bodies spin their wheels easier than the B-bodies.

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Cool! I've never been in a B-Body, sounds like a good time. I'd think that the 455 would make enough power though? Maybe it's just the way the chassis is set up that makes them more for cruising.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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HEHHEHEHEHEH My best one..........I just mash the gas and brakes and up in smoke she goes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYr_7...SryZfg&lf=plcp
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Eric

look at this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe4pt...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10i1y...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLWddLY4mg

So trying to do it without linelock and with the brake methode doesn't afect or damage my stall coverter?
Becouse i do not know what kind of cenverter i have in my car right now.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
It's a p.o.s ramcharger I would do the same if I had a car that was crap I wouldn't do that with my olds but I do drive it like I stole it lol

I have a power ram pick up...it's been a dam good truck!
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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I was trying to find this video I saw a while back but I can't find it now :/ it was an early 2000s (I believe) mustang doing a burnout for a reeeaally long time they left a big pile of rubber in the street and it was still smoldering for a while after they stopped!
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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The guy in the Ramcharger has to be and idiot and/or on drugs as Allan mentioned. He is damn lucky that truck didn't catch on fire. Why wouldn't you just take the money the tires and wheels cost and through it out the window. And to think this peebrain is out driving on pubic roads.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mdchanic
but... Why???

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why not?????
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Its very bad for your vehicle, dont do it. This is what happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unwujSVpZwA
Geez.......I guess that was redneck country. Aside from damaging the car you've got nearly while hot sparks flying around a gas tank.

What always scares me about power braking or just simply a burn-out from a standstill is the universal joint. I tell you of all the components in the drive train I find that to appear to be the weakest. If it broke the shaft might just drop I suppose, but it then again it could get caught up for, even a second it, on the frame or the axle and then could do serious damage to other parts of the car.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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HEHHEHEHEHEH My best one..........I just mash the gas and brakes and up in smoke she goes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYr_7...SryZfg&lf=plcp
Is your car a whale? What is that puff of smoke/steam coming from the back of the hood near windshield?
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
The guy in the Ramcharger has to be and idiot and/or on drugs as Allan mentioned. He is damn lucky that truck didn't catch on fire. Why wouldn't you just take the money the tires and wheels cost and through it out the window. And to think this peebrain is out driving on pubic roads.
I'm afraid I must concur.

In a thousand years, history classes will be reviewing that video when discussing the last fifty years of the "American Era."

Where have we gone wrong that putative adults destroy their own, perfecly functional, property for the sake of drunken pleasure?

Meanwhile, the "barbarians" outside the gates are behaving well, saving their money, and outproducing us.

It's only a matter if time folks - learn to speak Chinese.

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Old January 2nd, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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A lot of old farts in this thread.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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A lot of old farts in this thread.
Was thinking the same thing.

That Ramcharger vid would have been BETTER if it had caught fire cause he wouldn't have lifted!!!
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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A lot of old farts in this thread.
If you're referring to the fact that so many are critical and disapproving then I think your conclusion is without justification. Just about everyone here likes a powerful muscle car. And I think we all also have some appreciation of the fact that leaving rubber on the road is a demonstration of the power and performance of such cars. However, that guy in the Ram was an idiot in multiple ways. Forget the money he literally burned up in tires and possibly mechanical issues - that guy crossed the line (by a wide margin) in terms of safety concerns to himself and others. Not to mention the destruction of public property (namely the road).

The fact of the matter is that anyone who would act that way, as was alluded to previously, is likely to do something idiotic when he is simply driving down the road. It could be excessive speed, being drunk or running you off cause he thinks you got in his way.

Its not like he can't find a proper venue to destroy his car if he wants. There are demolition derbies, race tracks and private roads. But, with regards to the latter without proper fire and possibly medical attendants it is still a foolish thing to do.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Ehhhh I would have done the same thing . Last year for the 4th of july me and my mangaer at work had a demo derby in the shop with riding lawn mowers. Destroying things are fun. Fire is fun anything that sparks or pop's and bangs is fun. This is why we are men.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Is your car a whale? What is that puff of smoke/steam coming from the back of the hood near windshield?
That would be a nitrous purge.........And it only weighs as much as a whale.......
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Ehhhh I would have done the same thing . Last year for the 4th of july me and my mangaer at work had a demo derby in the shop with riding lawn mowers. Destroying things are fun. Fire is fun anything that sparks or pop's and bangs is fun. This is why we are men.
Well, I hope no one owned those riding mowers. I suppose destroying things has a fascination - that is true. It might also be why we are so darn good at war. However, I find more satisfaction in building things.....always did!
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by coltsneckbob
If you're referring to the fact that so many are critical and disapproving then I think your conclusion is without justification. Just about everyone here likes a powerful muscle car. And I think we all also have some appreciation of the fact that leaving rubber on the road is a demonstration of the power and performance of such cars. However, that guy in the Ram was an idiot in multiple ways. Forget the money he literally burned up in tires and possibly mechanical issues - that guy crossed the line (by a wide margin) in terms of safety concerns to himself and others. Not to mention the destruction of public property (namely the road).

The fact of the matter is that anyone who would act that way, as was alluded to previously, is likely to do something idiotic when he is simply driving down the road. It could be excessive speed, being drunk or running you off cause he thinks you got in his way.

Its not like he can't find a proper venue to destroy his car if he wants. There are demolition derbies, race tracks and private roads. But, with regards to the latter without proper fire and possibly medical attendants it is still a foolish thing to do.
Its his money, he can wipe his *** with it if he wants. The road was PRIVATE, it says so under the video. Im sure that guy drives down the road every day on his rims, just waiting to light them up at every stop sign he comes to.

Soooo Mr Fun Governor, he was where you suggest he be, on a private road enjoying himself and making the other people at the Burnout Party happy. Yes, those people were there to see him do that.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
But... WHY???

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Most every guy I know with a musclecar loves to do it, and people seem to love when we do it! Personally I love the sound, the smell and the expression on some people faces when they get freaked out. One time I was in my buddys car and we were stuck in a gridlock traffic jam in front of a grocery store, so he decided to powerbrake it. The ladies comin out of the store were so freaked out at this whole scene they started running away like the car was gonna blow!
Thats not me in that ramcharger, but I do agree hes not right in the head. I always felt that a cars ability to do a burnout has to do with the power to weight ratio.
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Its his money, he can wipe his *** with it if he wants. The road was PRIVATE, it says so under the video. Im sure that guy drives down the road every day on his rims, just waiting to light them up at every stop sign he comes to.

Soooo Mr Fun Governor, he was where you suggest he be, on a private road enjoying himself and making the other people at the Burnout Party happy. Yes, those people were there to see him do that.

I agree he can waste his money however he wants. And I checked you are correct it was a private road. Nevertheless, there is burnout fun and then there is stupidity. There is a gray area, but he was far beyond. There was nothing in the text below or in the video to explain what would happen if the tank/car caught fire. Well, most likely they would call the local FD - ummmmm a taxpayer funded entity. And if he survived but was severely burned would his insurance cover that......perhaps, but I bet the car insurance company would fight it if they knew how the car was used.....so again public funds. Then again there was no mention of what should happen if bystanders were injured. He (the driver) apparently had no regard for their safety. All, in all an immature display.......not because he ruined tires.....but because it was done with no thought of, or preparation, of the possible consequences. The inability to comprehend or anticipate consequences is a classic sign of immaturity and frankly that is why I would not want him on the road.


Smoking your tires is one thing........heating up the rim to white hot and throwing sparks like that near a gas tank........well I guess just as well since perhaps that is how we get people like that off the roads.
Old January 2nd, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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After a long day of working on cars and fixing them that's how we blow steam off. Me and my manager pick up old riding mowers get em to run drain half the oil and race em in the slick shop service till they blow up .


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