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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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RALLYE 350 numbers

I seen where the production numbers range up to 329??? but mine shows 383??? and the date of 03A.I have owned it for 31yrs. and pretty sure its a real rallye 350.
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:15 AM
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According to this article, they built 3547 Rallye 350 cars. So I'm unsure where you are getting yours is 383. What number does this refer to?

http://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus...0/1524149.html
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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That was the last 6 digits on the body tag.
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by a70oldscutlass
That was the last 6 digits on the body tag.
The cowl tag body unit number was not unique to Rallye 350 cars. It was just another Cutlass body.
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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DROLDSMORLAND wrote that the vin ranges were reportedly from 239,000 to 327,000 ish.Mine is way after that is why I was asking.
Old Apr 11, 2016 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by a70oldscutlass
DROLDSMORLAND wrote that the vin ranges were reportedly from 239,000 to 327,000 ish.Mine is way after that is why I was asking.
They started earlier than that as well, I shared the VIN of the Jan 70 built parts car I had that came with mine it was 237 "332770M237814"

cowl tag Body Unit Number: 338405
Build Date: 01A Body tag

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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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a70, the ~ in front of ~239000-327000ish indicates an estimate. Its all we have. Its dated published info gathered throughout the years. Mostly from the defunct (as far as I know)"Rallye 350 Group" of owners who used to be on "yahoo groups", who at the time had a gathered date range from their Rallye owner base, as well as available published data. The "estimate" kinda coincides with the known production calendar but certainly isn't etched in stone. Time for someone else to update that with DOCUMENTED cars. We know for some certainty that a September 69 run couldn't or shouldn't be a "production" Rallye. The option wasn't published to the dealers until early-mid February. Officially introduced by John Betz Feb 18th 1970. A December car would be in question unless accompanied with rock solid docs. Now, a late June car could be possible for sure? Id be more inclined to believe later cars exist but not the earlier ones. I will stick with it until we have documented cars that will force data updating. 31 years of ownership doesn't prove pedigree. It helps, sure, but documentation is what we need. a70...If you have it please send that info. Ill update the list I have so Im sending out known good data to all. Rallyes are elusive.
383000 on the assembly line would be what? What does your date of manufacture indicate?

Gearmans 01A, 237000 is plausible for sure. These tags were stamped by us humans. E.G. If someone stamped a tag late on Friday and went home before affixing it to a 01B car thats certainly possible.

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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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There was pic I shared somewhere that I took at the Nats last Summer of a another pic in a guys Rallye 350 display showing a bunch of Rallye 350 cars awaiting stripes in the snow otside at Lansing plant and it was dated January 70 and there were a lot of cars built and waiting. It was something Helen Earley had shared before. I think the door sticker date matched too , it does on my 4 speed car
Old Apr 11, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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January

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tml#post853489

you can make out words in picture but to me looks a good number of cars were built in January waiting on stripes, I bet there is a good chance one or both of mine were in the pic.
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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KEWL Gearman...a if only I had a transporter!
Old Apr 11, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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Shows the span of the different models too. Some with wing windows, some with non-recessed wipers, with & with out the stainless on the door frames...etc... Kool pic! Wouldn't get that model variety today from the dam bean counters! And to think 100% of them were USA UAW made iron, no mexican chineasium junk! Older IS better!
Old Apr 13, 2016 | 07:18 AM
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Sam Cesario has a registry started on them he is a member here and also on Facebook . my Rallye has a later build date so not one of them in the photo
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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I think Sam was one of the board leaders on the yahoo groups forum? Were goin back to 2000ish. This is where I obtained some of my info early on. Good guy.
Old Apr 13, 2016 | 08:28 AM
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I am on the FB Rallye page and Sam is there
Old Apr 13, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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We should collaborate and get updated. Though I dont do F...Book
Old Apr 13, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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I have 3 rallyes entered in the W machine registry website, one was on craigslist that showed the VIN so I took liberty to document it as well.
Old Apr 16, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
We should collaborate and get updated. Though I dont do F...Book
He is a member on here too
Old May 1, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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Thnks for the help.It seems like there isn't any documents showing the real answers to some of the questions on these cars.I also had the red S emblem under the cutlass emblem on the fenders and no rocket symbol on the key lock hole on the trunk and heard it was supposed to have that.
Old May 3, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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actually the completed Rallye 350 was started after Jan. 19th. Some were partially built prior to that waiting on parts to complete, such as the stripes from an outside vendor due to the UAW strike. I have pictures of completed Rallye 350s in a secured fenced area behind the Final Assembly Building, off Logan Street, with snow on them.
Old May 3, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by davebw31
actually the completed Rallye 350 was started after Jan. 19th. Some were partially built prior to that waiting on parts to complete, such as the stripes from an outside vendor due to the UAW strike. I have pictures of completed Rallye 350s in a secured fenced area behind the Final Assembly Building, off Logan Street, with snow on them.
That is likely the pic of pic I posted above I took at 2015 OCA nats
Old May 3, 2016 | 12:55 PM
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GERMAN69: If you notice that they all are " Cutlass post cars" which actually have F-85 3277 Fisher/Lansing body VIN numbers. I did not see my first Hardtop (3687) Rallye 350 till late Feb in that parking lot.
Old May 6, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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GERMAN69: If you notice that they all are " Cutlass post cars" which actually have F-85 3277 Fisher/Lansing body VIN numbers. I did not see my first Hardtop (3687) Rallye 350 till late Feb in that parking lot.
It is so cool to have someone here that was there ! Yeah I find it funny my F85 and the other F85 Rallye's still have a Cutlass fender emblem but F85 on the glove box. But that is how they came
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