Pollution police?
#42
Certain Counties in PA are almost as strict as Cali. Philadelphia coutny is one of them.
Classic tagged cars are exempt, though and Classic Tags are $97.50 and are good forever. Car is limited to 5000 miles a year though
They are changing the laws though. Cars 75 to 83 just need a visual check to see that the smog stuff is still there, but not neccessarly working
Classic tagged cars are exempt, though and Classic Tags are $97.50 and are good forever. Car is limited to 5000 miles a year though
They are changing the laws though. Cars 75 to 83 just need a visual check to see that the smog stuff is still there, but not neccessarly working
#43
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From what I just saw on the news, the Redford Gov't up here is planning to approach the Obama administration again with a slightly revised pipe plan that will avoid the sensitive wetlands. Not sure why the incumbent President wouldn't sign an agreement that would give America a local source of oil and secure American jobs in production and maintenance of the pipeline too. You ever see a politician with dirty hands - ok that's a no brainer. I should have said a politician that actually works and has the best interests of the people at heart?
#44
He's on record saying he wants gas prices to rise so that that America will start buying electric cars and reduce the amount of oil burned. Cash for clunkers was made to get rid of all these classic cars. Also it's election year so funny things will happen.
#46
Yes, but I understand that it's figurative in the case of Canadians.
The Brits are all "British Subjects" rather than "British Citizens," unless that's changed in the past few years (haven't seen a UK passport in some time), meaning that, in spite of the Magna Carta, they are subject to the whim of their Monarch (which, admit it, these days is Parliament, not the Queen).
Here in the US, we are citizens (though in recent years our government seems rather prone to forgetting that) - we can't be disarmed, and it is understood that the government exists at our pleasure, and not the other way around.
Granted, over the past forty or so years, Americans have been acting less and less like citizens and more and more like house pets (or house plants), still, in recent years it has seemed like the US system could be headed toward a citizen-initiated change the likes of which would be impossible in the UK or Canada because of the extent to which their populations have been disarmed.
- Eric
The Brits are all "British Subjects" rather than "British Citizens," unless that's changed in the past few years (haven't seen a UK passport in some time), meaning that, in spite of the Magna Carta, they are subject to the whim of their Monarch (which, admit it, these days is Parliament, not the Queen).
Here in the US, we are citizens (though in recent years our government seems rather prone to forgetting that) - we can't be disarmed, and it is understood that the government exists at our pleasure, and not the other way around.
Granted, over the past forty or so years, Americans have been acting less and less like citizens and more and more like house pets (or house plants), still, in recent years it has seemed like the US system could be headed toward a citizen-initiated change the likes of which would be impossible in the UK or Canada because of the extent to which their populations have been disarmed.
- Eric
#47
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#49
All Canadians are citizens, as confirmed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, that a PM named P Trudeau got the Queen to sign in the 1980's(help me on that date Alan).
Canada is modelled after the British parliamentry system, but our Queens
rep-the Governor General- has evolved into more of a ceremonial role ...
with some power in the running of Parliament in Ottawa.
Canada is modelled after the British parliamentry system, but our Queens
rep-the Governor General- has evolved into more of a ceremonial role ...
with some power in the running of Parliament in Ottawa.
#50
The US government was founded on the principle that the government is bad and should be done away with, or at least neutered and avoided.
Your government was founded by a bunch of people who thought the whole British colonial thing was a pretty good idea, and kept them warm and safe, and who wanted to keep it just the way it was, as opposed to those crazy, disloyal buggers to the south.
And, yes, I know you won the War of 1812.
We needed to have a President like him, but the closest we came was Jimmy Carter .
- Eric
#51
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like you are some sort of anarchist.
I'm with ya, bro!
I'm with ya, bro!
The problem with you Canadians is that you can't understand how most other nationalities feel, because your government is not actually out to get you, unlike almost every other government in the world.
The US government was founded on the principle that the government is bad and should be done away with, or at least neutered and avoided.
Your government was founded by a bunch of people who thought the whole British colonial thing was a pretty good idea, and kept them warm and safe, and who wanted to keep it just the way it was, as opposed to those crazy, disloyal buggers to the south.
And, yes, I know you won the War of 1812.
Pierre Trudeau was the coolest PM ever.
We needed to have a President like him, but the closest we came was Jimmy Carter .
- Eric
The US government was founded on the principle that the government is bad and should be done away with, or at least neutered and avoided.
Your government was founded by a bunch of people who thought the whole British colonial thing was a pretty good idea, and kept them warm and safe, and who wanted to keep it just the way it was, as opposed to those crazy, disloyal buggers to the south.
And, yes, I know you won the War of 1812.
Pierre Trudeau was the coolest PM ever.
We needed to have a President like him, but the closest we came was Jimmy Carter .
- Eric
Last edited by Red Delta; January 20th, 2012 at 10:39 PM.
#52
Basically, I think the government should be essentially disbanded, with minimal duties related to courts, road maintenance, public education, health care, and some sort of labor / environmental counterweight against large corporations, (which would otherwise become the government if the government went away), and 100% conscription for 1-2 years for the army (or for road maintenance or health care for conscientious objectors), along with lifetime military reserve status and no standing army other than the conscript training and reserve drill units.
Of course, that's never going to happen...
- Eric
#53
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The problem with you Canadians is that you can't understand how most other nationalities feel, because your government is not actually out to get you, unlike almost every other government in the world.
And, yes, I know you won the War of 1812.
Pierre Trudeau was the coolest PM ever. We needed to have a President like him, but the closest we came was Jimmy Carter .
- Eric
And, yes, I know you won the War of 1812.
Pierre Trudeau was the coolest PM ever. We needed to have a President like him, but the closest we came was Jimmy Carter .
- Eric
FWIW, I think this thread needs to get back to its topic. We have ventured into the area of political discussion which is a taboo item. Says so right in the forum. Let's move on.
#54
I don't know if the ***** saw it quite that way at Normandy.
Folks from the States don't fully appreciate how much butt the Canadians kicked in that war.
I recall him in his suit, sitting with his butt parked on a curb, giving the cameraman the finger, while half a dozen other heads of state all stood uncomfortably around him, waiting for something or other.
I thought he was the only one who had any sort of a soul.
Grumbe grumble grumble grumble...
- Eric
#55
Eric, Allen, continue the conversation in a PM or email and I'll join you two
I'm a political junkie as well as an Olds nut. But to keep the site civil and focused on Oldsmobiles we do need to stay away from politics in the forums. John
I'm a political junkie as well as an Olds nut. But to keep the site civil and focused on Oldsmobiles we do need to stay away from politics in the forums. John
#56
I am sure that you talking DEF and EGR! for those of you not up to speed, DEF stands Diesel Exhast Fluid a seperate tank that mixes with the exhaust to give it less emissions (urea) EGR is a term that most of you have heard of! basically a scruber for the exhaust. Also Kubota has PTF system that they run Particulate matter runs through a catylitic burner.
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My work pickup is a new Ford Diesel. The first time I went to fuel it up the attendant asked me what the little blue cap next to the fuel fill cap was. "Blue Diesel" or as you said urea. One day I was driving it and the dash display flashed "cleaning exhaust filter". The concept of a filter in the exhaust was a new one on me. I've since been told that it ran urea through the exhaust which is suppose to make it run cleaner. A co-worker told me the big rigs are having to do this too. John
We started using the exhaust scrubber process back in 1998 at the rail division. Although the passenger trains used 700V DC power for the traction motors, the diesels used for mtce in the tunnels were equipped with emissions controls to keep the air quality safe in the tunnel sections. IIRC the emissions scrubbers were activated by temp of the exhaust, so when the engine was under load it would 'self clean' the exhaust. Both loco engines however were rarely used at high enough rpms to activate that in the tunnels, so they were modified to work at lower temps. In the event that the scrubbers weren't effective, we also were able to control air quality in tunnel sections and stations using giant fans programmed to create wind flows called "smoke modes".
One other thing we developed into policy was that diesels were not allowed to enter or operate in tunnels with more than 1/4 tank of diesel. This has nothing to do with exhaust, but considered spillage in the event of a derailment. More goes into running a safe transit system than just signals.
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