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So I call the Missouri salvage inspection place and ask questions. They say if car is stolen.... They confiscate, if parts stolen.... Confiscate.... All new parts need original receipts not reprinted or reject. I ask can I pay to inspect now and if stolen I will gladly return car to rightful owner but they can't do that. I say so I have to spend thousands to get this car inspection ready and could end up getting confiscated. So I check online after contacting Ohio salvage agents and threaten contacting state representative because no way of protecting myself from a waste of money and time. They then tell me about NICB website and shows not stolen. My question is what parts on this car can result in confiscation by vin markings or lack of same? The motor is vin matching. Doors have been repainted and have no decals. Friends suggest selling all the new major parts ( fiberglass 442 hood, fender, bumpers, etc. that came with it and buying new ones due to the receipt requirements. WOW. I agree with what they are trying to do but damn. I want to save this car and I will if I can. Any advise would be appreciated.
The only thing I could suggest is talking to as many as you can in the business. Body shops, rebuilders etc. This kind of thing happens and has for a long time. Cars get rebuilt and sold with salvage work. Wait a short time, call the office back. Maybe you'll get a different or better answer.
I've heard horror stories like this before, but many more stories stating that the process wasn't that bad in the end.
You already know the worse case. Keep a good attitude and try again when you have some info or at least a better understanding. I don't profess to understand it well, but it often works out in the end.
I'd personally take a trip down to the state police station and see if they can point you in the right direction. It will probably take some time and patience to weed through the dept's until you get to whoever can really help you.
I will. Maybe in person I can get across that I agree with the process and only want to end up with a legal car. The body has a lot of work done already although the floor pan is shabby in my opinion. It has gaps and I want to redo it. Stripping it for a frame off. Will Detail and coat frame, new tank and lines. The quarters are good, inside looks like only surface rust. The windshield and dash area looks great. Doors are done. New fenders and a new hood. A lot of new small parts. Spare E heads and bumpers. Windshield looks new. Got new and old parts. It will turn out nice once I get past the red tape.
The car is not stolen. I checked on the NICB site. My post was too long winded. My question was do other large items on the car have vin numbers other than the motor, trans. Body and frame? The inspector had told me if any parts are stolen they confiscate. I want to check everything before I proceed.
The only Vin#'s or derivatives are on the engine, trans, and frame. The vin# is on the body. How would they know if an aftermarket part is stolen? If you have a signed title by the seller in his name, outside of individual laws pertaining to salvage cars by your state, there should not be any issues.
Their online instructions say any new parts must have original receipts or can't be used. It says any parts bought from others must have notorized detailed bill of sale and copy of both sides of title to be used on the salve car. I contacted the seller and he is sending a bill of sale with the extra new parts listed and notorized as part of the car sale. That hopefully will work. I searched past threads on here and saw the 70 and up doors are supposed to have decals on them with vin # matching the car. May need to address that.
Don't worry, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. In MO they do safety inspections but the inspector isn't going to do anything more than make sure the VIN matches the one on the title paperwork. In fact, your car may be exempt from inspections because of its age.
Oldsguy and I used to live in KCMO and never had problems titling and insuring our Oldsmobiles in MO. If you are using a shop to work on your car that wants proof of ownership for parts you're having put on then I suggest finding another person to do your work. I couldn't count all the parts Oldsguy and I had for Oldsmobiles that we got from MO junkyards without notarized proof of ownership.
highway patrol will look at vins. and run them for stollen parts. the receits go to dept of revune to make sure you paid sells tax on them. if they are major parts of the car then you will need vin on the receit for used parts.
New cars have a VIN tag on just about every body panel, piece of glass, bumper cover, etc. so maybe this is the mindset they have and don't realize old cars don't have the same documentation.
Originally Posted by Gary M
I searched past threads on here and saw the 70 and up doors are supposed to have decals on them with vin # matching the car.
The drivers door was the only one with a tag with the VIN. This is a picture of one I found on the 'net:
Like, what if the car was crashed in, like, 1968, and one fender was replaced with a fender from a stolen car (or a non-stolen car), and the paint is just a little bit different on that one fender - Are they going to confiscate the fender because you don't have a notarized bill of sale for it from 1968?
Well I plan on doing a thorough job of restoring it so they may not. The person I talked to left me feeling nervous about it but as stated by other members on this post the vin#s are only on certain parts. I am very confident the seller had every intention of restoring this car. He bought lots of parts and is now giving me a bill of sale showing they are included in the sale. That allows me to use them according to the HP salvage website rules. If he talked to the same HP inspectors I did he would have been as nervous as me. One guy said there MUST be a problem with that car because they are high dollar and would not sit that long. It is a big project. I removed the gas tank tonight and plan on replacing the floor pans and trunk pan.
I think I talked to an inspector that may have thought my questions raised a red flag. Bottom line is now that I have the info the people on this site gave me and a bill of sale the previous owner is supplying I cant see how this could go wrong. I am a very picky person and don't think I will disappoint the inspectors. I think this thread has reached its goal. I will post pictures of the progress of this build starting tomorrow because its on. this rebuild is going to happen. It may take some time due to money but we all know how that is.
Originally Posted by MDchanic
Yeah.
Like, what if the car was crashed in, like, 1968, and one fender was replaced with a fender from a stolen car (or a non-stolen car), and the paint is just a little bit different on that one fender - Are they going to confiscate the fender because you don't have a notarized bill of sale for it from 1968?
