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Old Sep 1, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Lifting an A Body

Please hold all judgement aside. Im in the process of changing my 67 cutlass into a gasser/street freak and have come to realize that a straight axle swap will be a lot more work than I originally thought. To still achieve the same stance, im looking at buying stuff from universalliftkits.com, which is normally reserved for "Donk" style cars. I know, I feel dirty for considering this, but IFS cars with similar stance on the track were a thing back then.

Anyways, I just wanted to confirm that I got what I'd need to achieve lift with someone who might be familiar with this kind of thing. Im ordering extended upper control arms, extended shocks, and coil spring spacers (already have BB a/c wagon springs in the front). Does this sound like everything I would need?
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 01:30 PM
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I'd have no idea on that stuff. Maybe a forum about that sort of thing would be the place to ask?
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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How does that coil spring spacer attach
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 04:20 PM
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How does that coil spring spacer attach
Sits under the coil spring and on the lower control arm
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 06:25 PM
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Sits under the coil spring and on the lower control arm
I would want that welded or bolted in place to keep the spring from wanting to remove itself.
I did see on their website that they have hi-lift coils for the early A-body(5-7-10 inch lift)
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 06:36 PM
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I would want that welded or bolted in place to keep the spring from wanting to remove itself.
I understand what you mean, but the shock absorber would keep the spring from going anywhere if it were to somehow unload itself and try to escape.
Old Sep 1, 2020 | 08:06 PM
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There is way to much pressure on the spring to move around, and as stated the shock keeps it all in place.
Old Sep 2, 2020 | 05:57 AM
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Apparently, there is a lift kit with everything included.

https://www.universalcarlifts.com/pr...utlass-malibu/

I would buy the kit with the included springs instead of using spring spacers. Your stock springs are already worn out, so adding a 4"+ spacer to them won't help. Make sure you check your wheel bearings and brakes before you do the swap.
Old Sep 2, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Apparently, there is a lift kit with everything included.

https://www.universalcarlifts.com/pr...utlass-malibu/

I would buy the kit with the included springs instead of using spring spacers. Your stock springs are already worn out, so adding a 4"+ spacer to them won't help. Make sure you check your wheel bearings and brakes before you do the swap.
I ended up buying spacers, upper a arms, and shocks. Luckily/unfortunately everything has been replaced in the last year.

I was under my car adjusting my bumper and took a look at my lower control arms. Idk what im missing, but won't they be at an angle when the car is lifted, this causing the spring to not sit flat with it? Im not used to an IFS lift, so maybe it's a simple concept im missing.
Old Sep 3, 2020 | 04:31 AM
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Adding spacers or taller springs to short / long arm suspension will undoubtedly change your alignment angles. If everything is assembled and the car is lifted then I'd say mission accomplished. Unfortunately, your car is probably going to eat tires like a lifted truck now.
Old Sep 9, 2020 | 01:50 PM
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UPDATE: Learn from my mistake; never use UniversalCarLifts.
The A arms are too narrow and wouldn't fit, the "extended shocks" are shorter than OEM (and too fat so they won't go through the lower control arm), and the lift cups that are supposed to achieve 3-5" of lift got me maybe 2". Of course they won't take the control arms back because I had the bushings installed, so im out $400 just for those. They'll take the shocks back, after I pay shipping and a 35% restocking fee. Customer service is absolute ***** and so are their products. Should've just saved my money and gone full straight axle.


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Well that sucks. They have very poor reviews on BBB and Yelp
Old Sep 9, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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Well that sucks. They have very poor reviews on BBB and Yelp
I did one myself. It seems like the last week they got a few complaints... After I had ordered.
Old Sep 10, 2020 | 04:15 AM
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Bummer.
Old Sep 10, 2020 | 07:55 AM
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Hey coastie did you see new members JOESFTL intro thread hes got a real nice gasser!
Old Sep 10, 2020 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
Hey coastie did you see new members JOESFTL intro thread hes got a real nice gasser!
Just checked it out. I thought they didnt make superchargers for olds engines? I wish I had saved my money and gone straight axle lol
Old Sep 10, 2020 | 09:06 AM
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Coastie, did you use a credit card to pay? If so, hopefully you can deny charges since the kit doesn't work.
Old Sep 10, 2020 | 04:04 PM
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Well **** me. Got the car back, rides like ***, and the a arms bottom out on the frame. On top of that the camber was fucked on the driver wheel with no way to adjust it. Idk if the a arm is bent or what, but it doesn't match up with the passenger side.
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