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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
It’s a fallacy the potus has no control over the price of gas.


Prove me wrong
I don't have to. Quit watching faux news and start getting your info from actual news networks. Potus doesn't control the price of oil.
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 12:29 PM
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i don't have to. Quit watching faux news and start getting your info from actual news networks. Potus doesn't control the price of oil.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 12:43 PM
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He may not, but his administration's policies effect it in ways you wouldn't believe- or in case of some here WON'T believe.

87 dropped to $3.95 at some stations here yesterday 7/13. It's still all over the place.
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyS
I don't have to. Quit watching faux news and start getting your info from actual news networks. Potus doesn't control the price of oil.
never heard of faux news..so you are wrong there.

can’t prove me wrong?
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
He may not, but his administration's policies effect it in ways you wouldn't believe- or in case of some here WON'T believe.

87 dropped to $3.95 at some stations here yesterday 7/13. It's still all over the place.
yep, but that’s not cool or hip to say. Ask Randy🙄

every single thing the potus does is 100% related to the cost at the pump

unless you watch the MSM, they tell you he has nothing to do with it…only a fool would believe that MSM spin

yet, right now he’s on his way to Saudi Arabia to figure out a way to lower the cost of gas, that he has no control over 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
never heard of faux news..so you are wrong there. HaHa, that would be fox entertainment to you, because they have admitted that they are not actually a news organization - don't believe me, google it.

can’t prove me wrong?
If POTUS controls the price of Gas in the US, why is it higher in virtually EVERY country around the world. Does POTUS control the price of gas in Canada???????? There is an old saying - it is better for people to think you are a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it..........
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:31 PM
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From the Department of Energy:

What are the main components of the retail price of gasoline?

The retail price of gasoline includes four main components:
  • The cost of crude oil
  • Refining costs and profits
  • Distribution and marketing costs and profits
  • Taxes
And I would add, in the current environment - Corporate Greed. Every Petroleum Based energy company has recorded the highest profit $$ EVER! I don't think Potus controlls them, does he?
Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:41 PM
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Every Petroleum Based energy company has recorded the highest profit $$ EVER! I don't think Potus controlls them, does he?
There's that......
Heard the railways are doing the same, just like the airlines with bag fees. People weren't flying during the covids, but they were sure ordering stuff. Hell, i don't think AutoGear has gotten any M22 1st gears from Italy for a year.

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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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He has no control over the price of gas. Keystone XL from Canada is some of the worst, toxic tar-sands oil ever. Any place it leaks, just kills everything. i do believe it leak in canada what a disaster!

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...ne-oil-spills/

You can pollute your own county! Keep that s---t

And it was being shoved up Native Americans asses. Right through and under their drinking water supply.

On the other hand! I think he should of had made peace with American oil companies. But his base would hang him. It not that there is not enough oil. But refiners, there no sense in building new ones.
If you keep telling them, ICE car are being phased out. The war makes all the markets volatile, oil. prices in particular!
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
Where are you located?

Lowest I have seen here in Denver and south is 4.52.
I'm in Missouri
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Yes, pipe lines leak. My In Laws had one crossing their land for years. It is monitored and any change in flow alerts, monitored by Enbridge. My Mother In Law called them when there was leaks, they told her, yes we know. Unfortunately, the best way to move Crude across our massive country. Not doubling the existing pipe line was just everyone wanting a hand out, the damage was already done to that land, years ago. Nice to see 187.9 per liter for regular gas here.
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HighwayStar 442
He has no control over the price of gas. Keystone XL from Canada is some of the worst, toxic tar-sands oil ever. Any place it leaks, just kills everything. i do believe it leak in canada what a disaster!

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...ne-oil-spills/

You can pollute your own county! Keep that s---t

And it was being shoved up Native Americans asses. Right through and under their drinking water supply.

On the other hand! I think he should of had made peace with American oil companies. But his base would hang him. It not that there is not enough oil. But refiners, there no sense in building new ones.
If you keep telling them, ICE car are being phased out. The war makes all the markets volatile, oil. prices in particular!
oh boy…you been listening to some fake news there chief.

the tar sands is the most ethically produced oil in the world, bar none. But go ahead and keep buying Saudi oil where there is zero environmental or oversight for the environment there…it’s just the bestest ever man.

the workers, the women, the environment are being trashed into oblivion…they love guys like you.

clueless, useful idiots hating on ethically produced oil in their own country or from allies who produce oil under the strictest environmental laws in the world

they love you…guilty conscience ****** who are eating up every left wing enviro **** bs going.

are you not feeling the least bit guilty about building that bad *** nascar block that will turn 10 million RPM on that disgusting fossil fuel?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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oh boy…you been listening to some fake news there chief.

The tar sands is the most ethically produced oil in the world, bar none. But go ahead and keep buying saudi oil where there is zero environmental or oversight for the environment there…it’s just the bestest ever man.

The workers, the women, the environment are being trashed into oblivion…they love guys like you.

Clueless, useful idiots hating on ethically produced oil in their own country or from allies who produce oil under the strictest environmental laws in the world

they love you…guilty conscience ****** who are eating up every left wing enviro **** bs going.

Are you not feeling the least bit guilty about building that bad *** nascar block that will turn 10 million rpm on that disgusting fossil fuel?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
x2 that made me laugh so hard
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 03:48 PM
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Here, this is your hero Joe the F head Biden over in Saudi Arabia giving the prince of darkness a fist pump because, well, that’s what progressive leaders do.

you know why he made a special trip over there, on a fossil fuel guzzling airplane ? Well I’ll tell you, he is over there beg the Saudis to pump more oil…it’s no secret, that why he said he was going…he wants them to pump more so the supply will outrstrip the demand and bring down the price per barrel

the Saudis already told him to go F himself when he asked them on social media.’


the said, you have more than enough of your own oil, pump it yourself you stupid idiot.

So here we have Joe, the potus , who the the left wing media says has noooo control over the price of gas, in Saudi Arabia begging for more production to lower the price of gas.

jeeesh…why won’t he just open up the taps in the U.S. ? There is more than enough under his own fat *** to keep the US supplied for like a hundred years with low cost oil and gas.

between the U.S. reserves of oil and gas plus Canada, we can supply the world for many years with ethically sourced and home grown oil and gas.

but .. we hate ourselves, we hate our energy industry,, we hate everything to do with ourselves…the lefties, like Joe would rather beg Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for their disgusting conflict oil.

Old Jul 15, 2022 | 04:09 PM
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$3.78 here. Still almost double what it was 18 months ago.

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Old Jul 15, 2022 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
Here, this is your hero Joe the F head Biden over in Saudi Arabia giving the prince of darkness a fist pump because, well, that’s what progressive leaders do.

you know why he made a special trip over there, on a fossil fuel guzzling airplane ? Well I’ll tell you, he is over there beg the Saudis to pump more oil…it’s no secret, that why he said he was going…he wants them to pump more so the supply will outrstrip the demand and bring down the price per barrel

the Saudis already told him to go F himself when he asked them on social media.’


the said, you have more than enough of your own oil, pump it yourself you stupid idiot.

So here we have Joe, the potus , who the the left wing media says has noooo control over the price of gas, in Saudi Arabia begging for more production to lower the price of gas.

jeeesh…why won’t he just open up the taps in the U.S. ? There is more than enough under his own fat *** to keep the US supplied for like a hundred years with low cost oil and gas.

between the U.S. reserves of oil and gas plus Canada, we can supply the world for many years with ethically sourced and home grown oil and gas.

but .. we hate ourselves, we hate our energy industry,, we hate everything to do with ourselves…the lefties, like Joe would rather beg Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for their disgusting conflict oil.
I cannot fathom where you get your info from, but you need a new source. WTF is ethicaly produced oil? Is that a new term coined by the far right?? The saudis CUT OIL PRODUCTION to drive up the price. Potus only wants them to crank it back up to what it was before comrade putins illegal invasion of the Ukraine.
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 04:15 PM
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Oh, yeah, you never answered my question - does Potus control the price of gas in Canada?
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 04:30 PM
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I blame Canada for the high prices.

Old Jul 15, 2022 | 11:12 PM
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Oh, yeah, you never answered my question - does Potus control the price of gas in Canada?
POTUS control the price of gas anywhere, that's a joke! POTUS has no control over basic skills like the ability to speak, much less controlling the price of gas. The cause of the recent price of fossil fuel is based on three letters, ESG.
Old Jul 15, 2022 | 11:42 PM
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Don Garlits is now racing an electric dragster and is pioneering electric dragsters for the NHRA.

For 2022 NHRA now has an electric dragster class that runs mid 7's in the 1/4 mile.

Don Garlits doesn't have to worry about gas prices with his electric dragster

Old Jul 16, 2022 | 05:48 AM
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Let us go back to 2020 to see how we got in this mess. When the virus got going and we had more mandates than a gay bar, usage of gas went way down the oil companies were still pumping at pre virus levels. It got to the point storage was full, in May 2020 futures oh crude dropped to a negative $40 a barrel for a short period. In the burbs of Chicago we saw sub $2 pricing. Combined losses for the major oil companies totaled close to 100 billion,pumping was cut and futures were in the 30 to 45 range. Nov 2020 saw promises by one party to end all drilling for fossil fuels. Add to this the World Economic Forum saw this as the perfect time to push their climate change agenda, major banks were being and still are pushed to not fund any fossil fuel projects. All this was pre Putin war, add that to the mix and futures are high.ESG scores are being pushed hot and heavy, the countries with the highest scores most are on verge of economic collapse.

A little note on the World Economic Forum, they meet in Davos once a year the small airport there has the most biz jets parked than anywhere else in the world,The majority of them have 2 to 6 passengers, these are the people who are pushing the climate agenda while burning a ton of fossil fuel.

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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Let us go back to 2020 to see how we got in this mess. When the virus got going and we had more mandates than a gay bar, usage of gas went way down the oil companies were still pumping at pre virus levels. It got to the point storage was full, in May 2020 futures oh crude dropped to a negative $40 a barrel for a short period. In the burbs of Chicago we saw sub $2 pricing. Combined losses for the major oil companies totaled close to 100 billion,pumping was cut and futures were in the 30 to 45 range. Nov 2020 saw promises by one party to end all drilling for fossil fuels. Add to this the World Economic Forum saw this as the perfect time to push their climate change agenda, major banks were being and still are pushed to not fund any fossil fuel projects. All this was pre Putin war, add that to the mix and futures are high.ESG scores are being pushed hot and heavy, the countries with the highest scores most are on verge of economic collapse.

A little note on the World Economic Forum, they meet in Davos once a year the small airport there has the most biz jets parked than anywhere else in the world,The majority of them have 2 to 6 passengers, these are the people who are pushing the climate agenda while burning a ton of fossil fuel.
yep, and who is all onboard with the WEF? Joe Biden and the democrats.

not to mention the Paris climate accord..which is another mail in the coffin for us.


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Originally Posted by pettrix
Don Garlits is now racing an electric dragster and is pioneering electric dragsters for the NHRA.

For 2022 NHRA now has an electric dragster class that runs mid 7's in the 1/4 mile.

Don Garlits doesn't have to worry about gas prices with his electric dragster
his EV dragster caught fire on the starting line and burned to the ground.. they couldn’t put the fire out. It also damaged the track.

well done
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:49 AM
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Oh, yeah, you never answered my question - does Potus control the price of gas in Canada?
in a round about way, yes…by canceling the keystone XL

Trudeau is causing our gas prices to go through the roof too. Adding a carbon tax, killing pipelines, adding massive environmental regulations etc etc
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:51 AM
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POTUS control the price of gas anywhere, that's a joke! POTUS has no control over basic skills like the ability to speak, much less controlling the price of gas. The cause of the recent price of fossil fuel is based on three letters, ESG.
and which party are the ones who love ESG? Ya, the democrats
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:52 AM
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I see this thread getting locked soon. If not, it should be highly edited. It's about gas prices where you live guys.
Not a lot can be done about it. Everyone pays their 9.1% inflationary costs and moves on. If it's on the way to the poor house, well, there you go.
Hopefully come November there will be some changes. Good or bad, time will tell.
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:58 AM
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All kidding aside! Politics is out. Climate change is real. And happening all over the world. The USA west, China, and etc. Historic heat waves and droughts. . Keystone XL, I told you already what you can do with that!

And yes, I burn the candle from both ends.
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:03 AM
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Yep, the climate has been changing, literally, FOREVER.
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RandyS
I cannot fathom where you get your info from, but you need a new source. WTF is ethicaly produced oil? Is that a new term coined by the far right?? The saudis CUT OIL PRODUCTION to drive up the price. Potus only wants them to crank it back up to what it was before comrade putins illegal invasion of the Ukraine.
I get my info from working in the energy sector for 35 years. Specifically the pipelines.

so I know what the hell im talking about. Where’s your expertise come from?

biden, and previous to him, Obama and our radical lefties here have been killing pipelines for years

if you never heard of ethicality produced energy, that proves you have no clue what you’re talking about…

North America can be 100% energy self sufficient and have enough left over to supply a lot of the worlds needs…if, presidents and prime ministers like Biden and Trudeau now would source our own vast quantities of natural resources that are ethically produced.

I’ll explain the ethical part since you have your head up your ***. It means our oil and gas industry here have very strict environmental regulations, employment regulations, safety regulations, human rights etc etc etc.

other countries like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Russia and a few others do not live up to any of that.. it’s a disgusting environmental mess, no workers rights, human rights abuses in and on and on.

yet Biden is over there now asking them to pump more of that unethical oil.

employees who work here in the energy industry make a very good living and it’s a great career. Not so in those other countries

i know I can tell you are a self loathing type of person who hates his own country.. you believe the bs that the oil and gas industry here are pure evil because they provide us a great standard of living…you have no idea how good you have it
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:10 AM
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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:16 AM
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Yep, the climate has been changing, literally, FOREVER.
Yes its has! Changing faster, other than a asteroid.slamming into the planet. Natural, man-made or both. Doing nothing, is no longer a option.Or lying to people for profit about it..
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:16 AM
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Right now, Biden and Trudeau could announce an end to the leftists war on our oil and gas industry, build safe and efficient pipeline, remove the regulations that are designed to cripple the energy sector.

that announcement alone would have an immediate impact where money and companies would flood back into the industry.

increase refining capacity so we wouldn’t have to begging third world hell holes to pump dirty unethical oil and gas

we could build enough LNG plants, that were cancelled under the green agenda, to supply nat gas to the world and displace dirty unethical conflict oil and gas.

but hey, if you’re uninformed and think the politicians don’t control the price of energy.. keep living in your alternate universe
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
Right now, Biden and Trudeau could announce an end to the leftists war on our oil and gas industry, build safe and efficient pipeline, remove the regulations that are designed to cripple the energy sector.

that announcement alone would have an immediate impact where money and companies would flood back into the industry.

increase refining capacity so we wouldn’t have to begging third world hell holes to pump dirty unethical oil and gas

we could build enough LNG plants, that were cancelled under the green agenda, to supply nat gas to the world and displace dirty unethical conflict oil and gas.

but hey, if you’re uninformed and think the politicians don’t control the price of energy.. keep living in your alternate universe
Some people have just lost their way.
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:19 AM
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Yes its has! Changing faster, other than a asteroid.slamming into the planet. Natural, man-made or both. Doing nothing, is no longer a option.Or lying to people for profit about it..
ok, you start. Give up all your fossil fuel ……be a leader.


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ok, you start. Give up all your fossil fuel ……be a leader.
Here this one should put you over the edge. I will be voting that way. And like a News company that runned by a foreigner. I am not going to let a foreigner, tell me a American what I should think and say!

Go have a Molson and chill!

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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:40 AM
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Does anyone think it’s odd that Biden over there begging the Saudis to pump more oil and he also asked Venezuela to pump more,, but didn’t ask Canada?

Canada has vast oil reserves and are #3 in the world for known reserves..but Biden didn’t ask, his neighbor, who already is shipping oil to him… for more?

huh, I wonder why? Well we all know why,, it’s because that would be political suicide. It would be admitting canceling the keystone XL was a mistake.. and his eco **** partner Trudeau would probably not go for it either.

so instead, Biden goes to a human rights offensive countries to ask for more oil


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Maybe you had too many Molsons already!
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 07:47 AM
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Here this one should put you over the edge. I will be voting that way. And like a News company that runned by a foreigner. I am not going to let a foreigner, tell me a American what I should think and say!

Go have a Molson and chill!
that’s a lot of gobbly gook.. voting what way?

i think you’re already into the beer
Old Jul 16, 2022 | 08:46 AM
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and which party are the ones who love ESG? Ya, the democrats
I do not argue this point, but the current POTUS is an empty suit. Cruiser Bob pretty much summed it up accurately. We need to open our eyes to the upheaval in Sri Lanka, Ghana, all other countries with high ESG scores and vote out anyone who aligns with following that model. If early signs are correct, the answer to a partial replacement for fossil fuel is fission to fusion. I have a close relative who is involved with the development of fusion, and they say we are getting close (within our lifetime) to having economically viable fusion energy, oh but what side of the fence are the no nukes crowd? We need a bridge to fusion and fission is a great way to get there. Nuclear yields 100 times the return on energy with an extremely small environmental footprint. Solar and wind yield negative to 10 times return, are diffuse, and intermittent making them an infeasible option and those who try that option will starve in the dark.
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