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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 04:56 PM
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Evap canister filter replacement question 🤔

How does one replace the filter in the evap canister on a '72 Supreme? The CSM and the ASM don't go into detail about the procedure. Here are pics of my canister and the replacement filter. From what I can tell, the canister doesn't come apart.

Also, what's the port on the filter used for? That's not shown in the CSM or the ASM either.





Old Mar 9, 2023 | 05:32 PM
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First filter like that I've seen. The ones I've used came as filter element only.

The opening in the new piece is the canister's outside air intake. You notice the original's filter is pretty much open to atmosphere.

Pry the fiberglass elements out of both pieces, then work the new filter into the original canister thru the bottom opening. Problem solved.

Newer production OE filters are made of open-cell foam instead of fiberglass. I don't like them as well as the fiberglass but the glass ones aren't as easy to find now, even aftermarket.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 04:42 AM
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A quick search online shows the applications for the part you have. A 1972 Supreme is not among them.
Cadillac 1970 (California cars),
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 – 1981.
Chevrolet 1970 All with Evap. Emisions Control,
Chevrolet 1971 – 1974 Vega,
Chevrolet 1972 Chevy,
Chevrolet 1973 – 1975 All.
Chevrolet Van 1970- 1971 G-10.
Chevrolet Pickup 1973 – 1974 All, Blazer, Jimmy.
GMC 1973 – 1975 Sprint.
Oldsmobile 1973 with 6 cylinder.
Pontiac 1971 – 1972 , 1974 Ventura.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oldoldss
A quick search online shows the applications for the part you have. A 1972 Supreme is not among them.
Cadillac 1970 (California cars),
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 – 1981.
Chevrolet 1970 All with Evap. Emisions Control,
Chevrolet 1971 – 1974 Vega,
Chevrolet 1972 Chevy,
Chevrolet 1973 – 1975 All.
Chevrolet Van 1970- 1971 G-10.
Chevrolet Pickup 1973 – 1974 All, Blazer, Jimmy.
GMC 1973 – 1975 Sprint.
Oldsmobile 1973 with 6 cylinder.
Pontiac 1971 – 1972 , 1974 Ventura.
So it's the wrong filter?
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:33 AM
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Does the cap assembly fit into the bottom of the canister? It should just snap in. If that’s the case, just pull the yellow filter out of the canister. Easier than replacing the canister… it should look like this on the bottom:



and from underneath the car, the cone should line up with the hole in the inner fender liner.



Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:43 AM
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Hi Dave - The bottom of my '71 CS canister looks same as your 1st image. I simply remove the canister, turn it upside down (charcoal settles to top), remove the filter from the bottom of canister by pulling out, it's about 1/2" thick (the filter is more or less like a 3M abrasive scratch pad), then insert a new filter. You can buy absorbent pads at any of the big box stores - most are a square shape. Just cut a circle and insert the new absorbent pad in the bottom, turn canister right-side up and done. You could change charcoal as well if you want.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:10 AM
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Part # (7028131) of your canister is same as mine ('71 CS). In case yours is noodled up, there's a used one available on eBay.


Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Part # (7028131) of your canister is same as mine ('71 CS). In case yours is noodled up, there's a used one available on eBay.

Thanks Norm. My canister is in decent shape, but I got a better one from Bill (BeenThere). I just needed clarification about changing the filter.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BSiegPaint
Does the cap assembly fit into the bottom of the canister? It should just snap in. If that’s the case, just pull the yellow filter out of the canister. Easier than replacing the canister… it should look like this on the bottom:



and from underneath the car, the cone should line up with the hole in the inner fender liner.


Gotcha...I'll check it out, and thanks.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:19 AM
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Here are a couple images of a different type of filter material which may or may not have been the OEM type material - who knows. At any rate....good luck!




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Originally Posted by BSiegPaint
Does the cap assembly fit into the bottom of the canister? It should just snap in. If that’s the case, just pull the yellow filter out of the canister. Easier than replacing the canister… it should look like this on the bottom:



and from underneath the car, the cone should line up with the hole in the inner fender liner.


Does the port on the bottom just vent into the air?
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:26 PM
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So I just did some checking and it seems the new one is a bit smaller in diameter than the one that's in the car, because when I put the new one in, I tightened the clamp as far as it would go, and the canister was still a little loose. Could it be that the filter cap adds some height and thus not allowing the canister to fully seat and that's why it's not fully tight?
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
So it's the wrong filter?
Yes.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Yes.
I was able to snap the housing onto the canister with no issues. I'm just not sure why the new canister doesn't fit as tigjt as the old one.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:59 PM
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The bottom of YOUR canister is the 1st image in this post - correct? Why are you attempting to install part #7021739 into your canister? It is not the correct filter.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
I was able to snap the housing onto the canister with no issues. I'm just not sure why the new canister doesn't fit as tigjt as the old one.
Possibly because you have the incorrect fuel canister retainer?
NOTE: Chevrolet manufactured two different sizes of fuel canister retainers. You certain you have an Oldsmobile fuel canister retainer?
I have no idea what fuel canister retainer you have installed, but note the following two different part numbers for two different fuel canister retainers and the applications for the part #7021739 filter w/ drain cap.




Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:31 PM
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I suspect your canister bracket (408174) should look like this:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...wanted-110406/
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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I remain suspicious the only filter for your canister is a ten cents sponge or a $4.00 element

NOS GM General Motors Chevrolet 7026014 Delco Canister Element
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:54 PM
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Appears that filter (7021739)was used (as previously identified in Post #3) on the 1973 Oldsmobile 6 cyl. engine.




Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:13 PM
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Here's a nice new GM# 7026014 Filter NOS (the one designed for your canister). Unfortunately, it's for a Corvette - just kidding! At least they have the years of application listed correctly (as I identified in the Oldsmobile Parts Catalog above).

1970-1974 Corvette Fuel Vent Vapor Canister Air GM# 7026014 Filter NOS
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
The bottom of YOUR canister is the 1st image in this post - correct? Why are you attempting to install part #7021739 into your canister? It is not the correct filter.
Norm, I wasn't trying to put that filter onto my canister. I bought another canister that came with that filter under the assumption that all canisters were created equal, but apparently that's not the case. And yes, the first pic above showing the bottom of the canister is actually mine. RocketRaider's response in #2 above pretty much sums it up in my caae..."the bottom of the filter is open to the atmosphere." This tells me that mine is correct, so I'm leaving it alone, besides, as you can see, my filter is still in pretty decent shape.

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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Possibly because you have the incorrect fuel canister retainer?
NOTE: Chevrolet manufactured two different sizes of fuel canister retainers. You certain you have an Oldsmobile fuel canister retainer?
I have no idea what fuel canister retainer you have installed, but note the following two different part numbers for two different fuel canister retainers and the applications for the part #7021739 filter w/ drain cap.
Norm, I have no reason to suspect my bracket is not original, but your pic clearly shows that there were different brackets for different canisters. This would explain why the one I purchased didn't fit as tight as the one that was in the car. Who knew? As the saying goes, you learn something new every day.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Norm, I have no reason to suspect my bracket is not original, but your pic clearly shows that there were different brackets for different canisters. This would explain why the one I purchased didn't fit as tight as the one that was in the car. Who knew? As the saying goes, you learn something new every day.
I'm not trying to confuse you but note the parts I referenced above in that image is from a Chevrolet parts book. As noted in the Oldsmobile parts book i only looked up the filters for you NOT the canister bracket, but I did provide you a CO link of the type bracket you should have in your car - Post #17

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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
I'm not trying to confuse you but note the parts I referenced above in that image is from a Chevrolet parts book. As noted in the Oldsmobile parts book i only looked up the filters for you NOT the canister bracket, but I did provide you a CO link of the type bracket you should have in your car - Post #17
It's kinda hard to tell from that pic what it should actually look like, but I'm gonna take a pic of mine tomorrow and post it here. In the meantime, is it agreed that the canister and filter I bought are not correct for my car?
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:04 PM
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Dave - I haven't even seen a picture of the purported canister you purchased - how am I to answer that question?
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Dave - I haven't even seen a picture of the purported canister you purchased - how am I to answer that question?
Whoops...my bad Norm. Here ya go.






Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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I'm assuming you purchased these items?
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-442-a-170268/
The canister is the correct Part #.
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:29 PM
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The canister (7028131) is the correct canister. The filter (7021739) is NOT the correct filter for that canister. It is correct for select Chevrolets and a 1973 Oldsmobile 6 cyl. engine. Part #7026014 (called an element pkg) is the correct filter for the (7028131) canister. The correct bracket for the canister is listed in Post #17 - part #408174.

Canister: 7028131
Filter (Element Pkg): 7026014
Bracket: 408174
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