Data Tag Decoder Beta
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UPDATE: It is now working.
Sorry about that, let's try this again...
After a few months of work I have developed a cowl tag decoder online that I am hoping that people will find useful. It is not prettied up yet but I am working on that as time permits.
It covers all GM products (except trucks) from 1964-1972 with more years coming depending on response. For those who would like to try it out, please go to:
http://datatagdecoder.com/_beta/form.html
To use the decoder, you start by entering the year, then GM division, then body, then fill in the rest of the blanks.
Positive and negative feedback is appreciated. If you find a missing code, a code that is in error, a general webform problem or have any questions or suggestions you can email me at:
datatagdecoder@gmail.com
This information is pulled from the best possible resources available and is not likely complete but I as this is a first attempt I am hoping that it can be something that will help us as Olds guys and the greater GM car community as a whole.
Thanks for your consideration.
Sorry about that, let's try this again...
After a few months of work I have developed a cowl tag decoder online that I am hoping that people will find useful. It is not prettied up yet but I am working on that as time permits.
It covers all GM products (except trucks) from 1964-1972 with more years coming depending on response. For those who would like to try it out, please go to:
http://datatagdecoder.com/_beta/form.html
To use the decoder, you start by entering the year, then GM division, then body, then fill in the rest of the blanks.
Positive and negative feedback is appreciated. If you find a missing code, a code that is in error, a general webform problem or have any questions or suggestions you can email me at:
datatagdecoder@gmail.com
This information is pulled from the best possible resources available and is not likely complete but I as this is a first attempt I am hoping that it can be something that will help us as Olds guys and the greater GM car community as a whole.
Thanks for your consideration.
Last edited by chrisneu68olds; June 25th, 2014 at 11:04 AM. Reason: ...
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Found the problem. One of the library files didnt transfer...my bad...![Frown](https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
That is why it is called 'beta' LOL!
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That is why it is called 'beta' LOL!
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X2 on the sticky! Well deserved and will keep a lot of cowl tag decode posts down. I wonder how accurate it is with a '65 442? It seemed there was always questionable items on them in the past. Especially highly optioned ones.
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The next big part of the project is to make a pretty page to surround the decoder page and of course add/edit codes as needed. I am working on things as quickly as I can and will update everyone as soon as major events happen.
For those that have a missing or incorrect code, all that I ask for is proof that the code is correct by submitting some form of documentation be that a factory publication or universally accepted source.
I would like to also ask that anyone who has a 64-72 Chevy, Buick, Caddy, or Pontiac give it a try as well.
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The $64,000 question for sure. Hope we can get some more input.
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...... but I don't think the paint code should've came up different??
Paint code "T" for a '66 Pontiac should all be the same - NO??
I see GAOldsman had the decode as a '65 & it was decoded as a '65 color
Paint code "T" for a '66 Pontiac should all be the same - NO??
I see GAOldsman had the decode as a '65 & it was decoded as a '65 color
Last edited by hurst68olds; June 25th, 2014 at 07:05 PM.
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C60 is on me. I will need to tweak the code so that South Gate Pontiacs do not pull the 5 accessory list and use the similar Fremont RPO codes instead. That one will take me a couple of days to get done, but good catch.
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Many of the same codes were used across all divisions in a year, operative word, many, certainly not all. This is one of the rare instances where consensus may dictate the definition of a code until other evidence comes up.
The question I have (assuming this is your cowl) is;
If you have a B in group 3, do you have (or did you have) a rear window defogger?
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are you referring to the code "T" for Pontiac in general?
Just need clarification of the question...
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The ACC codes for non-Fremont pre '68, especially Olds, Pontiac, and Buick is tricky. Chevy is pretty well documented.
Many of the same codes were used across all divisions in a year, operative word, many, certainly not all. This is one of the rare instances where consensus may dictate the definition of a code until other evidence comes up.
The question I have (assuming this is your cowl) is;
If you have a B in group 3, do you have (or did you have) a rear window defogger?
Many of the same codes were used across all divisions in a year, operative word, many, certainly not all. This is one of the rare instances where consensus may dictate the definition of a code until other evidence comes up.
The question I have (assuming this is your cowl) is;
If you have a B in group 3, do you have (or did you have) a rear window defogger?
Yes, the car is equipped with rear defogger.
Here are what the accessories were listed as when i first asked on here.
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Also the Correction Request link will be active as well as some other links added for feedback, facebook, twitter, etc.
Did you test it out to see if your codes were what you expected?
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I edited my above post in reference to '66 Pontiac paint code "T".
Decoding a '67 Turnpike & "3U" doesn't show under the accessory & I don't know what it represents. There are a couple members that have the code but we've been unable to determine what the actual option is.
I would remove the 442 & Turnpike reference on the decode of a '67 (& other) 33817s (& I'll assume 33807s and 33867s) or all of the sudden all '67 Cutlass Supremes will be 442.
Decoding a '67 Turnpike & "3U" doesn't show under the accessory & I don't know what it represents. There are a couple members that have the code but we've been unable to determine what the actual option is.
I would remove the 442 & Turnpike reference on the decode of a '67 (& other) 33817s (& I'll assume 33807s and 33867s) or all of the sudden all '67 Cutlass Supremes will be 442.
Last edited by hurst68olds; June 25th, 2014 at 07:54 PM.
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How crazy do you want to get? You could be the only site on the web with "complete" decode info.
"4C" = chrome side window sill moldings (B85) & your "2L" should read something along the line of (M20/M21/M22) although I'm not sure if the M22 would code the same "2L"?
"4C" = chrome side window sill moldings (B85) & your "2L" should read something along the line of (M20/M21/M22) although I'm not sure if the M22 would code the same "2L"?
Last edited by hurst68olds; June 25th, 2014 at 07:47 PM.
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I edited my above post in reference to '66 Pontiac paint code "T".
Decoding a '67 Turnpike & "3U" doesn't show under the accessory & I don't know what it represents. There are a couple members that have the code but we've been unable to determine what the actual option is.
I would remove the 442 & Turnpike reference on the decode of a '67 (& other) 33817s (& I'll assume 33807s and 33867s) or all of the sudden all '67 Cutlass Supremes will be 442.
Decoding a '67 Turnpike & "3U" doesn't show under the accessory & I don't know what it represents. There are a couple members that have the code but we've been unable to determine what the actual option is.
I would remove the 442 & Turnpike reference on the decode of a '67 (& other) 33817s (& I'll assume 33807s and 33867s) or all of the sudden all '67 Cutlass Supremes will be 442.
I think the only reason that I described the Turnpike and 442 as options for the Cutlass Supreme is because a Fremont car has no ACC code to reference a 442 like a LAN or FRA built car, plus it implies (to the uninformed) that no 442's came from Fremont. I do see your point though...hmm...suggestions? Maybe I should elaborate on the description clarifying it somehow?
As far as how crazy...well after over 101,000 rows of combined data in multiple database tables, the term crazy is moot now.
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I would like to have as much accuracy as possible and tweaking will be a constant. Something like this I never see being 100% done, I would be happy with 95%
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For the database:
1970 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe (VIN 342570Zxxxxxx)
I got options
980, which is "Bench seat, Black" (100% sure)
B80, which is "Chrome roof drip molding" (Quite sure about this one)
Second option is not available/not selectable
Did you see that: http://www.justanswer.com/classic-ca...s-cutlass.html
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Ah, it's unter "Accessories". Got it.
1970 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe (VIN 342570Zxxxxxx)
I got options
980, which is "Bench seat, Black" (100% sure)
B80, which is "Chrome roof drip molding" (Quite sure about this one)
Second option is not available/not selectable
Did you see that: http://www.justanswer.com/classic-ca...s-cutlass.html
Ed:
Ah, it's unter "Accessories". Got it.
Last edited by Nop; June 26th, 2014 at 09:50 AM.
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24-Hour Mark
After 24-hours post release I am pleased to say that I have reached almost 400 decoding requests. Not too bad, thanks for your participation!
I am planning on leaving the beta site up for a week or two to update codes and get additional feedback before general release, plus this will give me additional time to make the website presentable.
If you would like to send your comments, suggestions and corrections and don't want to make this thread unmanageable, feel free to email me at datatagdecoder@gmail.com.
Keep those decoding requests and suggestions coming!
I am planning on leaving the beta site up for a week or two to update codes and get additional feedback before general release, plus this will give me additional time to make the website presentable.
If you would like to send your comments, suggestions and corrections and don't want to make this thread unmanageable, feel free to email me at datatagdecoder@gmail.com.
Keep those decoding requests and suggestions coming!
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Assembly Code BC for pre-68 Pontiacs pull only the RPO codes similar to BF so that when Division Code 2 (Pontiac) is selected and Assembly Plant BC (South Gate, CA) is selected, RPO's only show, not ACC codes.
UPCOMING CORRECTIONS
- If pre-68 and BC is selected, show only RPO Accessory codes in top tag mockup, not ACC codes.
- Add Fremont 2 digit numerical seat codes as per TK-65
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"Cutlass Supreme Convertible 442, Turnpike Cruiser available option"
I agree with the thought process and I brought up the 'Fremont 442' wild card. As we all know there is no ACC "V" code for Fremont, nor an W-29 RPO code that I have ever seen for that matter, but there were 442's that came from Fremont.
To the non-Olds person, the above could be confusing. I propose the following replacement text:
"Cutlass Supreme Convertible (442's and Turnpike Cruisers built in Fremont plant (BF) should be verified with factory build sheet if available.)"
A bit wordy but it at least explains it a bit.
Ideas anyone? I am willing to go into a different direction...nothing is off the table.
Thanks,
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In:
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Out:
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I can't select my Fremont (BF) plant after selecting 40 - 3 - 4257 and the B80 (Chrome roof rail moulding) is on the same line as the 980 (Split bench) on my Fremont tag layout.
Other than that: Great work.
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A mouse over hint (for example for the date code drop downs) like "Date code digits 1 and 2" and "Date code character 3" would be a help
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Out:
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I can't select my Fremont (BF) plant after selecting 40 - 3 - 4257 and the B80 (Chrome roof rail moulding) is on the same line as the 980 (Split bench) on my Fremont tag layout.
Other than that: Great work.
Ed:
A mouse over hint (for example for the date code drop downs) like "Date code digits 1 and 2" and "Date code character 3" would be a help
Last edited by Nop; June 26th, 2014 at 09:45 PM.