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Old October 22nd, 2013, 10:58 AM
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Air compressor water trap question

I'm setting up my shop and want to see what other have done with black pipe. How have you kept water out of your system? I have a blast cabinet and will paint parts too. If you have pics that'd be great. I am a visual person. Thanks for the help.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Just install an air dryer at least 15' from the compressor to remove moisture.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 11:12 AM
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I used a down pipe to trap the water with an automatic drain and a tube to exit outside. I also used and automatic drain at the bottom of the tank.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 11:45 AM
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I'm going to be going down this path in the next few months myself.

Oldcutlass, I've not heard of an automatic drain for the water. What/How/etc., if you don't mind sharing.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 01:48 PM
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Something like this:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/CON...302?Pid=search

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/WIL...T04?Pid=search
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 09:55 AM
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Automatic Drains

Those are cool, I never even suspected such things existed! Thanks for sharing.
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 12:37 PM
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Automatic drains are cool but not necessary. A manual ball valve works fine (assuming you remember to drain it regularly, of course). Here are two diagrams from TP Tools that are a good tutorial on compressed air piping design.



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Old October 23rd, 2013, 12:48 PM
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What tells those when to open? I have only seen electric ones on a timer.
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 05:42 PM
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I sell industrial A/C and also design air systems. Joe and Eric are both correct. Just two different approaches to the same problem. Jos's approach is the most simple method. Water being heavier than air settles to the lowest point in the system. Open the manual drain valve daily and let the water flow until air comes out and you are good. Just make sure you remember to open the drain daily. Eric's method takes the guesswork out and drains the system automatically. There are 2 types of auto drains: timed drain, which opens by a preset timer, and float drain, which opens when the moisture level lifts a float valve off the seat. When designing a system always have the drop from the header come from the top of the pipe. A drop would be a hose or pipe that hooks to the tool. A bit of trivia about moisture from compressors. A 25 hp compressor running continuously will produce up to 18 gal. of water a day!
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I personally like the electric chillers that condense the water out.

Don't have one, but I like 'em.

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Old October 23rd, 2013, 07:10 PM
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Thanks guys. That TP set up gives me some ideas. I have a water separator and pressure reg/filter set up. Now I can picture how to set them up.
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There's a 100 + ways to set up a pneumatic plumbing system and almost as many to get moisture out. The price can range from cheap to a whole lot of $$$$$. I'm a big fan of coalescing filters and drains, there is nothing worse than getting your air tools and paint guns all sludged up with dirt and grime.
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