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Old January 18th, 2010, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by toro68 View Post
There was W-30 (442)
W-31 (Cutlass)
W-32 (1969 442/ 1970 SX Cutlass)
W-33 (Delta)
W-34 (Toronado GT)

Did I leave/miss anything out?
Of cousrew there was the W-45 ram air hood and W-27 rear axle for the A-body cars.
W25 was the hood.

W45 was the Rallye 350! (W car #6)
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Old January 18th, 2010, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wmachine View Post
W25 was the hood.

W45 was the Rallye 350! (W car #6)
Thank you for the correction! Like Joe, I have been shoveling snow all morning (MLK day), and have not had any coffee yet.

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Old January 18th, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
You threw me for a minute there (the coffee hasn't kicked in yet). I had to use the fingers of both hands to finally get six. It took me a minute to figure out that 30 through 34 includes five different numbers. And, no, 45 wasn't the one I missed...
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There was W-30 (442)
W-31 (Cutlass)
W-32 (1969 442/ 1970 SX Cutlass)
W-33 (Delta)
W-34 (Toronado GT)

Did I leave/miss anything out?
I've never seen a pic with all six in the same shot. I tried to do that at OCA Nats in 1990, but we didn't have a W33. But we got 5 of 6!
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 06:54 AM
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Many moons ago, was there a guy from WI, and OCA advisor for W-33?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by toro68 View Post
Many moons ago, was there a guy from WI, and OCA advisor for W-33?
In case you missed this, it is a fully documented W33:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ta-custom.html
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 05:17 PM
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I remeber seeing at a few Oldsmobile Nationals show, a fellow, with a blue 1970 Detla 88 conv, with W-33 option and a factory FORD three-in-a-tree tranny! I believe he was the orignal owner too!
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 06:11 PM
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I recall seeing that blue 70 3-speed 'vert, but the way I recall it was equipped with a 2-bbl low comp 455. I could be wrong, but that's the way I remember it. Very cool car regardless.
As for the documented W33/B07 car mentioned by Kurt above, did anyone ever get anymore info about the "emblem delete" the owner spoke of? Looking at pics of the car, it appears to be missing almost all the exterior stainless trim and scripts. He wasn't sure if there was really such a delete option or the trim had been removed in a previous repaint. Seeing as how the car is a Delta Custom, it seems unlikely that the trim would have been deleted at the factory. If you wanted a stripped exterior, why not just order a base Delta? There are not even any wheel opening mouldings.

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Old January 24th, 2010, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by toro68 View Post
I remeber seeing at a few Oldsmobile Nationals show, a fellow, with a blue 1970 Detla 88 conv, with W-33 option and a factory FORD three-in-a-tree tranny! I believe he was the orignal owner too!
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I recall seeing that blue 70 3-speed 'vert, but the way I recall it was equipped with a 2-bbl low comp 455. I could be wrong, but that's the way I remember it. Very cool car regardless.
As for the documented W33/B07 car mentioned by Kurt above, did anyone ever get anymore info about the "emblem delete" the owner spoke of? Looking at pics of the car, it appears to be missing almost all the exterior stainless trim and scripts. He wasn't sure if there was really such a delete option or the trim had been removed in a previous repaint. Seeing as how the car is a Delta Custom, it seems unlikely that the trim would have been deleted at the factory. If you wanted a stripped exterior, why not just order a base Delta? There are not even any wheel opening mouldings.
Copper, you are correct. Saw that car a couple times, once for sure was at the 2007 OCA Nats in Bowling Green Ky. Besides, it was not and could not be a W33, as the W33 required the M41 Heavy Duty Turbo 400 trans.


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As for the documented W33/B07 car mentioned by Kurt above, did anyone ever get anymore info about the "emblem delete" the owner spoke of? Looking at pics of the car, it appears to be missing almost all the exterior stainless trim and scripts. He wasn't sure if there was really such a delete option or the trim had been removed in a previous repaint. Seeing as how the car is a Delta Custom, it seems unlikely that the trim would have been deleted at the factory. If you wanted a stripped exterior, why not just order a base Delta? There are not even any wheel opening mouldings.
I "went through" the paperwork with him, and there was nothing to support this being a factory, or even dealer thing. I have to presume it was done in a previous repaint.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 08:36 AM
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From 1965-1968, my father bought new 442's every year; he wasn't happy with the performance of the '68 442 and ordered a '69 Delta w/police pkg to replace it. The Olds zone office called the dealership to verify the order, they thought it had to be a mistake that a police car was ordered as a bright red 2-door with white vinyl interior/white stripe tires/deluxe wheel covers. It was built as ordered however.

I still have 1/4 mile time slips from the Delta; it ran 14.90's and didn't shift into 3rd gear until it got to the stripe. Wouldn't squeak the tires off the line because of the lazy 3.08 gears, but miles per hour was 108-110.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 09:38 AM
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Holy Crap! You are the only other person I know who has had first-hand experience with one of these cars! I would LOVE to hear more about that car. PM me or post it here. Can't wait to hear from you.

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Old January 25th, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Holy Crap! You are the only other person I know who has had first-hand experience with one of these cars! I would LOVE to hear more about that car. PM me or post it here. Can't wait to hear from you.

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My first-hand experience is very limited with the Delta; I was three years old when we got it, so I don't remember much about it. The only info I have (besides time-slips and a couple of pictures) was relayed by my father. It was replaced with a '70 W-30 in early 1970, so the car wasn't around long. Somewhere at my folk's house is a file with the window sticker for the Delta, along with more photos, that I will attempt to locate.

The only pic I have scanned onto the computer shows the tail-light and that's about it.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 12:07 PM
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The mph's seem pretty high. I believe the 14.90's but 110mph? You sure it isn't 100? Either way it's a great story. My mother had a 70 Delta 88 convert that I smashed up real good in 1981. I'll have to find the pics someday.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by toro68 View Post
There was W-30 (442)
W-31 (Cutlass)
W-32 (1969 442/ 1970 SX Cutlass)
W-33 (Delta)
W-34 (Toronado GT)

Did I leave/miss anything out?
Of course there was the W-45 ram air hood and W-27 rear axle for the A-body cars.
It was W25 ram air hood.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wmachine View Post
W25 was the hood.

W45 was the Rallye 350! (W car #6)
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It was W25 ram air hood.
Okay...it was the W25 hood.

Ram Air is Ponton nomenclature.
You can call me Outside Air Induction, you can even call me Forced air Induction... but don't call me Ram Air!

Even Norm agreed with me on that one, I had the post engraved on a bronze plaque.

Why not just Photoshop all the W type cars together if you want a pic of them all in one place?
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Not Ram Air...? No-one told these guys!
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Old January 25th, 2010, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluevista View Post
Ram Air is Ponton nomenclature.
You can call me Outside Air Induction, you can even call me Forced air Induction... but don't call me Ram Air!

Even Norm agreed with me on that one, I had the post engraved on a bronze plaque.
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Not Ram Air...? No-one told these guys!
Well Norm may have agreed with you, but Oldsmobile *did* specifically call it Ram Air on more than one occasion. So it is not exclusively Poncho.
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What ever happened to norm anyway. I know there was a thread against him a while back, and I don't recall him around much since then.
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I was wondering the same thing. It would seem he has been very selective in what and when he posts lately. Been kind of missing his input lately.
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Found a better photo of my folks' B07 Delta from approx July 1969; I found a few more but they are stuck together after facing each other in a photo album for 40 yrs. Does anybody know how to get photos un-stuck from each other without ruining them?
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Old February 25th, 2010, 09:48 AM
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That is so cool. Thanks for the pic. Maybe you could visit a scrap booking hobby store or perhaps the local museum where they often have to deal with that kind of problem (stuck pictures). There is bound to be a way to free them non-destructively.
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A local photo shop may also be able to help.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 04:04 PM
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I Love it!!!!! Is that you in the picture? How old were you and do you have any specific memories you would be willing to share with us? Thanks so much for taking the time to post it!!!!
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Cool photo! You might be able to un-stick the photos w/some steam...but very carefully! Don't saturate the photos!
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Old February 26th, 2010, 05:55 PM
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Great story. A new oldsmobile every year, what a dream.
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