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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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Okay, i got the brake lights working but now my turn signals in the front light up when i step on the brakes, there are no turn signals front or back of the car everything els works.. Any clues as to what going on here?
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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You need to be EXTREMELY specific when describing problems like this one.

We need to know exactly which filament of which light bulb is on at exactly what time,
ie: brake pedal up, brake pedal depressed, signals switch Left, Center, and Right, 4-way switch On and Off, Headlight switch On, Park, and Off.

If we have excluded incorrectly connected wires (which we haven't), then the most likely culprit is the signal light switch.

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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
You need to be EXTREMELY specific when describing problems like this one.

We need to know exactly which filament of which light bulb is on at exactly what time,
ie: brake pedal up, brake pedal depressed, signals switch Left, Center, and Right, 4-way switch On and Off, Headlight switch On, Park, and Off.

If we have excluded incorrectly connected wires (which we haven't), then the most likely culprit is the signal light switch.

- Eric
When i depress the brake pedal my brake lights come on as well as my front turn signals, both of them at the same time solid, just like the brake lights. When i pull the headlight switch out my dim parking lights cone on, depress the brake and they light up brighter and solid like brake lights.. The other thing as well is theres no turn signals, when i flip the turn signal switch it flickers but only while the turn signal switch is being flipped.. Its pretty hard to explain, from someone ehos lost to someone whos found.. Im sure ill get it sorted, i just thought maybe someone would have expirenced this b4

Thank you tho, i appreciate the response
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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I don't need anymore information. I know exactly what it is. You need to put a hazard flasher in your fuse block and check to make sure the turn signal flasher is good as well.

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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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I guess I should explain:

Without the Hazard flasher in the fuse block the brake switch applies power to all of the running lights front and back. With the flasher in, it only applies power to the rear. Without the Hazard flasher the turn signal flasher will not work properly, that is why you don't have turn signals.

Don't ask me the specifics, I'm not an electrician. Just encountered this a long time ago and again a few weeks ago when my buddy's '68 Camaro had the exact same problem. I looked at the fuse panel, no flasher. Got on for $7 and plugged it in. All of a sudden, all the lights worked normally.

Be sure to report back so the next guy gets the answer easily...and so I know if my advice helped or not.
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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It is actually the hazzard switch that separates the turn signals from the brake lights and the front from the rear signal bulbs.
Do you have a hazzard flasher switch installed?
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady72nRob71
It is actually the hazzard switch that separates the turn signals from the brake lights.
Do you have a hazzard flasher switch installed?
Beat ya! LoL! But your explanation is better
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 01:07 AM
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Okay guys, 1 am cali time and im dancing around the garage! Heres what happened.. My hazzard switch is a bit ghetto, someone broke it off flush to the coloum. To tell you the truth i had no idea what it was but it was pushed in and jammed so the hazzards were on the whole time! Once i unjammed it to the off position everything started working fine! Signals brake lights and all! My hazzards for some reason dont flash, perhaps the busted up switch is to blame. Either way i can live with that..

Thanks guys! It was right under my nose the whole time!
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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My hazzard switch is a bit ghetto, someone broke it off flush to the coloum. Once i unjammed it to the off position everything started working fine! Signals brake lights and all!
Originally Posted by MDchanic
... the most likely culprit is the signal light switch.
Just like I said.

Originally Posted by 805cut
My hazzards for some reason dont flash, perhaps the busted up switch is to blame.
Originally Posted by ah64pilot
You need to put a hazard flasher in your fuse block...
Just like Steve said. Do you have a hazard flasher in place in the fuse block?

- Eric
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Just like I said.



Just like Steve said. Do you have a hazard flasher in place in the fuse block?

- Eric
The problem was the hazzard switch, no one said anything about the switch its self. Robs post made me think and thats when i started playing with the hazzard switch its self. There is. A hazzard flasher on the fuse box ofcorse. But when i turn the hazards on the front and rear lights just go solid. Its either the switch or the flasher.

Either way id say this case is closed
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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The hazard switch and the signal light switch are the same thing.

It's one unit. All connected.

It sounds like you need a new one. They're about $20 at your local auto parts store.

- Eric
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
The hazard switch and the signal light switch are the same thing.

It's one unit. All connected.

It sounds like you need a new one. They're about $20 at your local auto parts store.

- Eric
Oh alright, and yeah ill look into it. Biggest problem here was me lol

Thanks for the replies!
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Biggest problem here was me
Biggest problem here was you bought a car with a butchered electrical system, had to replace the harness, and then could not be sure whether each new problem was caused by your wiring, or had already existed before you touched it.

You're doing a great job getting it together, though.

My one recommendation would be that you get a copy of your Chassis Service Manual (or download it for free from WildAboutCars) and thumb through the chapter that's related to anything you're about to do before you do it - that way, you'll have a background idea of how everything works ahead of time, and you'll be able to recognize problems faster than if you've got to sit down and figure it out from scratch.

- Eric
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Biggest problem here was you bought a car with a butchered electrical system, had to replace the harness, and then could not be sure whether each new problem was caused by your wiring, or had already existed before you touched it.

You're doing a great job getting it together, though.

My one recommendation would be that you get a copy of your Chassis Service Manual (or download it for free from WildAboutCars) and thumb through the chapter that's related to anything you're about to do before you do it - that way, you'll have a background idea of how everything works ahead of time, and you'll be able to recognize problems faster than if you've got to sit down and figure it out from scratch.

- Eric
Thanks, this is the first car ive ever worked on like this im a welder by trade so electrical is NOT my thing. I have a assembly manual but not a chassis service manual.. Pretty sure there two diffrent things cause theres not much about electrical in the assembly manual

Just got on wild about cars and man! What a site!

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