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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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Cutlass package

Anyone know what types of items came with the cutlass package. I know the trim level was different from that of the F-85, but I would like to understand the differences. Thanks.
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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That's a good question, and unfortunately the answer is somewhat complex. First, I assume you're asking about the 1964 model year, because the standard equipment and trim for each model varied by year. In 1964, one key distinction was the base engine. The Cutlass got the 260 HP 330 4bbl as the base motor, while other F-85s got the 210 HP 330 2bbl. The V6 was the base motor on the aptly-named V6 Sport Coupe. The V6 and Cutlass 4bbl motor were optional on the other F-85s. Interestingly, Olds appears to have increased the HP ratings as the model year went on, because the station wagon brochure shows 230 HP for the 2bbl motor and 290 HP for the 4bbl motor.

Upholstery patterns varied among the various F-85 versions that year, as there was as standard, a deluxe, a sport coupe, and the F-85 Cutlass. Standard tire sizes varied as well (6.50 x 14 for the V6 cars vs. 7.00 x 14 for the V8 cars). The base F-85 got a rubber floor covering and the base steering wheel. The Cutlass and F-85 Deluxe models got carpeting, "safety padded dash", deluxe steering wheel, and "deluxe interior appointments" (whatever that means). Only the Cutlass models and the F-85 V6 Sport Coupe came standard with bucket seats. Apparently these were not available on other models that year, since the center console was only available on the Cutlass and V6 Sport Coupe models. Here are links to some 1964 dealer brochures. Keep in mind that these were printed before the 442 option was released.

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/olds/64olo/64olo.html

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati.../dirindex.html
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
That's a good question, and unfortunately the answer is somewhat complex. First, I assume you're asking about the 1964 model year, because the standard equipment and trim for each model varied by year. In 1964, one key distinction was the base engine. The Cutlass got the 260 HP 330 4bbl as the base motor, while other F-85s got the 210 HP 330 2bbl. The V6 was the base motor on the aptly-named V6 Sport Coupe. The V6 and Cutlass 4bbl motor were optional on the other F-85s. Interestingly, Olds appears to have increased the HP ratings as the model year went on, because the station wagon brochure shows 230 HP for the 2bbl motor and 290 HP for the 4bbl motor.

Upholstery patterns varied among the various F-85 versions that year, as there was as standard, a deluxe, a sport coupe, and the F-85 Cutlass. Standard tire sizes varied as well (6.50 x 14 for the V6 cars vs. 7.00 x 14 for the V8 cars). The base F-85 got a rubber floor covering and the base steering wheel. The Cutlass and F-85 Deluxe models got carpeting, "safety padded dash", deluxe steering wheel, and "deluxe interior appointments" (whatever that means). Only the Cutlass models and the F-85 V6 Sport Coupe came standard with bucket seats. Apparently these were not available on other models that year, since the center console was only available on the Cutlass and V6 Sport Coupe models. Here are links to some 1964 dealer brochures. Keep in mind that these were printed before the 442 option was released.

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/olds/64olo/64olo.html

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati.../dirindex.html
Weird. One of these brochures states that the Deluxe model and Cutlass models come with a walnut (deluxe) steering wheel. However, on my '64 cutlass it's definetely not walnut. It's black. I'll have to see if it's painted that way or was redone at some point. Also, the rest of my interior is light blue, but my steering wheel is black. I thought that they matched the steering wheel color with the interior color. Also, I've got F-85 emblems on the quarter panels with "V8" underneath it. I thought if you have a cutlass the cutlass logo would be there. My cowl tag illustrates it's a cutlass as well as my dash. Hmmmm. I do know that the car was painted because original color was Midnight Mist and now it's like a really light blue. Does anyone know what Midnight Mist is in the color spectrum? Looks almost black in the swatch for '64, but can't tell if it's got some dark blue in it or not. So many questions, I can't wait to start getting into this sucker. I'm sure I'll find all kinds of surprises.

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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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could be the front fenders were replaced with a good pair of f85 ones
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