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What's that in the frame rail???

Old Apr 12, 2017 | 05:50 PM
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What's that in the frame rail???

This afternoon I removed the front bumper from a 1970 Delta 88 parts car. Then I noticed something that didn't look right inside the frame rail. How do you think this got there? Looking at the weathering, how long do you think it rode around in there?

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Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Question is "Does it work?
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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I'd look at the base with a loupe to see whether there is anything there that looks like a date code - was that light bulb made in 1969?

I see no way for something that size to accidentally find its way into the frame, so the question in my mind is: Was that bulb one of the no-cost "extras" installed on the assembly line by a bored or annoyed GM worker?

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Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:33 PM
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Oldsmobile ride quality testing? So smooth you can pack light bulbs in our chassis and not brake them...
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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I've heard of all kinds of things put in cars by line workers over the years.
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 07:39 PM
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Maybe someone's idea of a new style time capsule... Definitely surprising that it wasn't broken...
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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That looks like the early under car lighting people used to do in the 60's + early 70's. You know, before the LEDs and neon tubes used now. You guys are probably too young to remember.......
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrolds69
that looks like the early under car lighting people used to do in the 60's + early 70's. You know, before the leds and neon tubes used now. You guys are probably too young to remember.......
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Old Apr 13, 2017 | 05:11 AM
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That's funny! I would guess assembly line!
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 07:00 AM
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Watts that???

It denotes a "Light Duty Frame"...may be on the build sheet as LDF 100W.
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 07:06 AM
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Back in '75 I found an empty half pint bottle inside the passenger side quarter, behind the door jam access in my wife's new Camaro. We kept hearing a "clunk" when braking or accelerating.
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 07:25 AM
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Old Apr 13, 2017 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
I've heard of all kinds of things put in cars by line workers over the years.
What's weird, though, is where would a line worker get a light bulb unless he brought it from home? Given that the factory was probably lit by fluorescent lights mounted on the ceiling way up high, there would not likely have been any incandescent bulbs laying around. Would a line worker really go through the bother to bring in a light bulb just to hide it in a car going down the assembly line? Why a light bulb and not something that will make a little more noise? If he's a disgruntled worker trying to get back at GM, why not hide something a little more critical to GM's operations, like a tool or an extra car part or something like that?
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
What's weird, though, is where would a line worker get a light bulb unless he brought it from home? Given that the factory was probably lit by fluorescent lights mounted on the ceiling way up high, there would not likely have been any incandescent bulbs laying around.
I wouldn't be so sure.

Likely they had drop lights with incandescent bulbs for use in certain areas for inspection.
If a drop light bulb burned out (as they do all the time), a worker may have grabbed a replacement, swapped out the bulbs, had the old bulb in his hand, looked around, noted a trash can twenty feet away (or not around at all), and just stuffed it in the frame to keep the line moving.

- Eric
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 08:00 AM
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Well, I looked for a date stamp and didn't find anything. The ink on the top of the blub is really faint, but it looks like a Sylvania 60 watt. The gunk on it looks like its been there a while. So however it got there I had a chuckle when I spotted it!
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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I worked at a Ford dealer in the 80's as a mechanic and during a strike talk time we'd find all kinds of strike paperwork jammed in trunks, under seats. I had a 87 Ford Escort GT that had a crank/no start then and it had no comp. I thought, well, check spark, good, fuel, good, then cam timing, good. Ran a comp check, almost 0. Pulled the engine apart, not a one ring on any piston.
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
I wouldn't be so sure.

Likely they had drop lights with incandescent bulbs for use in certain areas for inspection.
If a drop light bulb burned out (as they do all the time), a worker may have grabbed a replacement, swapped out the bulbs, had the old bulb in his hand, looked around, noted a trash can twenty feet away (or not around at all), and just stuffed it in the frame to keep the line moving.

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And lots of equipment of that era had incandescent bulbs.
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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maybe left from a dealer repair,or body shop
Old Apr 14, 2017 | 05:29 AM
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Old Apr 14, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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Couple cents from a current auto industry employee, the aboves are right in that equipment sometimes has its own lighting, and back then definitely would have been lightbulbs. Your typical "assembly line" has a conveyor that moves the car down it, and that's either overhead conveyor holding the car on a carrier frame, or a moving floor slat or skillet line holding the car up by posts. Then, you have about 2 feet on either side that is walkway, then flowracks of parts and equipment control panels outside of that. Above those flowracks and the walkway are utilities that my company calls the task equipment, and those things include "star line" (which is a bus of 220/110), air manifolds for 100 psi or so plant air, all the wiring for communications, and, lastly, relevant to this conversation, a continual bank of one or two tube fluorescent lights tilted down at a 45 degree angle on both sides of the line, running the entire length.


The overhead lighting for general lighting of the conveyance aisles between the lines does not do much, and many of the plants of my company don't even have it.


My bet is an underbody inspection or work light burned out and the dude just stashed it there thinking someone on final would pull it before putting the bumper on.
Old Apr 28, 2017 | 04:37 PM
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My bet is an underbody inspection or work light burned out and the dude just stashed it there thinking someone on final would pull it before putting the bumper on.
Ive worked as a Dealer Tech for 5 years and then an Assembly plant, it was probably a factory repair tech who forgot it when he finished up, or got finished by a different shift.

At the dealer, the customer complained of a metallic rattle in the passenger door of his brand new Pontiac. I pulled the panel out and found someones lunch, 2 tallboy cans of Bud.

Nuts,bolts, screws, were all common finds in doors and other tight areas of cars, the assembly line speed doesn't give enough time to finish your job correctly and fish for lost parts. The current assembly line process requires the assembler to check off on every job, either the job is done to spec, or there is some error that must be checked by repair or inspector. Its part of the drive to error proof the build process. But even with this, defects get thru.
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